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200k karma lose for destroying ship

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by AtomicPotato, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. AtomicPotato

    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    Well done PA, well ****** done, now there is no way to destroy those left over trolls ships that blocking access to bartering points, blocking afk routes, blocking entering into Velia port.
    Community asking 3 years for removing left over ship and you implement huge karma lose if you destroy this ships.
    BRAVO PA.
     
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  2. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    best part is - u can still sink guild galleys without that punishment :thumbsup
     
  3. Allan1985

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    i have 8632 barters and i have never found not even 1 of those "trolls" you describe, honestly it sounds as a cheap excuse that a griefer would try to use.
     
  4. Allan1985

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    griefers prey on the weak tho xD i am loving how every update makes the griefers and PvE haters even more miserable xD
     
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  5. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    wdym its literally 100 times easier to sink a galley (before/after vell) and it usually affects more than 1 person
    that karma on sinking excludes guild boats sooo u can still freely sink them and "grief" more people - without punishment
     
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  6. Allan1985

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    then escort it with a carrack? bring more than one guild galley? bring more boats? as a guild people is perfectly capable of organizing preventive countermeasures, this change protects the weaker players wich is the usual target of the griefing PA stated themselfs to be against of.
     
  7. AtomicPotato

    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    Yes, leaving your ship in middle of ocean while you grinding in Gyfin ( and have huge pop up that durability of your items is low) , or wherever you are, not on your ship - is griefing.
    Killing other people ship should not be free, but implement death sentence while you ignore community, that asking for solution for 3 years, is insane slap in face of players.
     
  8. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    oh ofc there is ways around it but usually (since galley are slower) the other dudes in the guild who have ships are alrdy at vell or further away its really easy to kill galleys im telling u
     
  9. Allan1985

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    nope, by definition thats not being a griefer, you could call it not being considerate or at most being a dic.k, wich has several different solutions that PA could implement to fix it, i see this particular change as positive, and a reafirmation of PA dislike of griefing
     
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  10. Allan1985

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    then that can be resumed as a lack of guild management skills, wich can be solved easily.
     
  11. AtomicPotato

    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    Being d1ck is leaving your ship in Velia port - yes. Leaving your ship to block passage on Hakooven route or Pirates or Lerao or leave your ship in middle of ocean on 100% afk route so everyone gonna stuck in you - is pure griefing.
     
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  12. Allan1985

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    lets say for the sake of the conversation that there is people doing so (wich i havent seen in 8k barters) in that case what we should do is to ask for features that solve that problem, complaining about a feature that is aimed at protecting a considerable portion of the pve player base is probably not gonna solve it.
     
  13. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    That is a wrong statement. Griefers are simply trying to destroy the gameplay of others. It doesn't matter if they're stronger, weaker or if they do it through pvp or pve. Griefing has many forms and is done by all kinds of playergroups.
     
  14. AtomicPotato

    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    8k barters is very very low numbers.
    Yes i understand that there is people who kill other at Vell, Vell is 1 time in week event, can simple restrict PVP for 1h or make whole route save zone, but no, somehow PA listen to people who complain about being killed at Vell and can't hear roar of those who ask to deal with left over ships.
     
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  15. Allan1985

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    come on! teasing me already? mate you just lost a huge chunk of your credibility right there

    while i agree about the leftover ships needing some attention, as mentioned above this feature is aimed to protect many people, you do not expect a roll back on a feature that benefits the many just because you feel bothered with some empty ships here and there, do you?
     
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    8k is not that high tbh. Players that have been bartering since it came out have 20-30k.
     
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    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    dude, you trying to tell that 8k bartering is a lot, while I'm filthy casual at 20k, and there is already master7 ( so they should be like 40k+ barters). If you doesn't seen anyone blocking passages on you very low amount of barters, try to do more bartering.
    Trust me, when you set you route and you know its take you 20 minutes to arrive to destination, so you go afk, and you find yourself stuck in fishing/bartali boat right outside of rendering zone where you start, you'll feel like me, people at Vell getting killed? I don't care, I'm care about i can't kill that troll boat, so me, and someone else like me wont have to stuck there.
     
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  18. Allan1985

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    regardless of your opinion on my barter count my arguments still stand.
     
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    So much for boat PvP. I guess PA gave up on it entirely. Probably just decided they can't fix desync and invisible boats, and instead just make it so noone wants to sink each other anymore.
     
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  20. Sadalsuud

    Sadalsuud Tamer 62 EU

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    The only slap in the face was to allow players to sink ships without any punishment. Given the situation that can result from it, it was unacceptable.
     
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