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Any change with "Renown" removed?

Discussion in 'PvP' started by Railx, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 62 EU

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    maybe the fact u r able to survive a combo IS a part of the class mechanic now


    i get your point tho, dw :D
     
  2. Jey

    Jey Valkyrie 62 EU

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    with 251 DR, you can take a full combo from someone with 276 AP without dying.
    Do not confound: I am talking about DR and not DP; 251DR
     
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  3. DarkCSS

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    Man, I can't wait to test my 427 DP build without renown again! And killing AP Monkeys will probably be more viable
     
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  4. HogWash

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    Can you link the data the source of this claim?
    You even say 251DR not 250?? To be do ex
    Can you give data source of this claim? to be precise exactly on point 251DR no 250?? .You must have some good data
     
  5. Jey

    Jey Valkyrie 62 EU

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    I tested it myself and i don't like the way you answer me, so I am not going to give you any info on this.
    cheers
     
  6. Reigne Irkalla

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    Must resist urge to say mean things regarding country and class and the word typical

    Just post the test already mate
     
  7. Reigne Irkalla

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    Ehhhhhhhh removing renown seems to have borked some if not all Valkyrie preawakening skills. Big difference in damage with combos - we've been made reliant on our awakening. :/

    And having trouble finding other classes willing to test if their preawakening skills are doing less. :<
     
  8. Exaah

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    wat?
    you have like 256 dr just from having a classic urugon griffon softcap gear.
    and you say you can take a full combo from a 276 ap player without dying ?
     
  9. Kauni

    Kauni Archer 62 EU

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    No you can't.... lol....
     
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  11. Shinkai_Shoukan

    Shinkai_Shoukan Wizard 61 NA

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    TET Griffon, Urus, Tree, Bhegs and Kutum give you 251 DR which is probably where his overly specific number is coming from.

    And I'd love to see someone tank a full combo from someone with 276ap with that setup.
     
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  12. MoZex

    MoZex Musa 62 EU

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    With 316 dp (from tet bossgear, narcs n caphras) i cant tank a 265 269 ap mystic who does full cc chain (i barely get up in time tho), i cant tell the difference as im archer now n its naturally squishier than musa. It feels pretty unchanged for me overall, i can one-two shot tet armor peeps on my 280 ap archer.
     
  13. Buxx

    Buxx Lahn 62 EU

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    280 ap archer wtf
     
  14. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 62 EU

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    coupon warriors :D
     
  15. AZzalor

    AZzalor Hyneria Maehwa EU

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    As a witch i even kill past softcap mystics in 2 skills while i'm not softcap myself. feelsgoodman
     
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  16. Netreiam

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    This doesn’t sound right at all. More details?
     
  17. v.klishev

    v.klishev Striker 62 EU

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    Actually I have noticed taking slightly more dmg as a striker from witchards, not by a huge margin, but a witch guildie with below softcap AP can take me down in a combo on my standard 294 urugon/griffon dp, unless i have stacked my dp/magic dp selfbuffs before that. (just gorr roll can shave 60% of my hp)

    I would attribute that to loss of massive DR from renown and the summons damage remaining pretty much unchanged as it was somewhat separate from the renown.
    Also feels like evasion kinda rose in effectiveness too, but as a striker I can't talk much about that due to the way my class works.
    When I get more free time after the holidays will prolly run some personal tests just to get a better idea of what is going on.
     
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  18. AZzalor

    AZzalor Hyneria Maehwa EU

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    I'm witch lvl60 with 252 ap. The other mystic was an ap mystic, but with 276 ap and 299dp.
    I do shift+f -> shift+rmb and he dies easily.
    I actually did the test with another tamer of my guild and had them both stand besides each other. Tamer was a bit higher dp tho.
    My shift+f brought the mystic down to ~35% and the tamer down to ~30%

    Tbh for me it seems like they buffed the pets like crazy. They said in the patchnotes that the dmg of summons was adjusted to match the higher dp people get now.
    I tested with another guy the dmg of my shift+f with and without flow. Without flow it did ~20% of his hp, with flow it did ~75% of his hp as dmg.
     
  19. Netreiam

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    Interesting. Could you get more exact stats for the tamer? DR, Eva, HP, lvl, etc? I find it extremely strange that a tamer (known as one of the squishiest classes in game) takes nearly the same damage as a mystic with just “a bit more DP” not calling you a liar or anything, just want to have a better picture of what’s going on.
     
  20. T800

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    You need to get over your Mystic PTSD. The sooner you get over it, the sooner you can start enjoying the game again.
     

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