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Any Plans to buff Red Nose Armor in the future ?

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Ashenvall, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. IWalkAlone

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    Its not good.Why someone unkillable should be good.And isnt that the problem with evasion ?
     
  2. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    He's not unkillable tho. As i said, ultimates are a good way to stop that kind of stuff. In a nw, where such builds would probably be the only usecase, you get tons of ults thrown at you, reducing your max hp. This will lead to eventually killing him. With evasion you can't really use this tactic as with max evasion you will barely get hit and thus the hp-reduce from bsr skills are not applied either.
     
  3. IWalkAlone

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    Yeaa but for evasion you need only accu to kill it, so its easyer actualy.And when you stack too many evasion you cant kill anithing with desent DP so.. again your idea is worst than evasion.
     
  4. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    there are some really good 100% acc skills also in nw there is evasion debuffs aswell
     
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  5. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    Again...if you stack too much dp you can't kill anything either. Just that stacking evasion is way easier, especially for some classes with evasion passives.
     
  6. ghoulz666

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    Double the HP recovery. I like not having to worry about rapid degen in the desert.
     
  7. Ashenvall

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    Hp per hit or wp per hit could be good
     
  8. DarkGG

    DarkGG Darkiee Sorceress 61 NA

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    It's simple swap the evasion on rednose to Dr so you have rednose for Dr and HP Regen then dim tree for evasion and the raw hp as simple as that. We should not have dim and red nose to be the same stats but dim being 1bil more just for 200hp
     
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  9. Ned Sheynji

    Ned Sheynji Sheynji 62 EU

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    I like some of the missinformations in here. But correcting it is something i like even more. So lets get to it.

    The fact that evasion is cheaper to build than DR is only partially true AND its not even the main issue here.
    We could also talk about how real evasion builds have to sacrifice AP in order to be effective blablabla but thats not the problem either.

    The main issue is the following:

    Evasion grows linearly the higher the stat becomes
    DR doesnt. DR has softcaps that diminish its potency the higher the stat becomes.
    If anybody wants to learn more i highly recommend checking out BigandShinys DR test from a few weeks ago.

    Anyway the issue DR vs evasion doesnt really have anything to do with buffing a shitty gear piece so lets move on~
     
    #29 Ned Sheynji, Dec 13, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2019
  10. Unranked

    Unranked Unranked Striker 63 EU

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    this will make rednose even worse I think.
    Atleast now when you got 20b to spend rednose is the better choice since you have more money left for capras and its cheaper to put capra levels on rednose. so in then end
     
  11. Flesh007

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  12. IWalkAlone

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    Again, same as evasion, so how one is problem but other not ?
     
  13. DarkGG

    DarkGG Darkiee Sorceress 61 NA

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    DarkGG Darkiee Sorceress 61 NA

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    Not really, since there are classes that take better advantage from dr instead of evasion. Ita just like running muskans on an evasion build with heve, vs running uru and griffon on a dr build.
     
  15. Ashenvall

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    Stuff from bdo mobile, with more stats, maybe we are getting it?
     
  16. DarkGG

    DarkGG Darkiee Sorceress 61 NA

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    Ah it could be like a reform upgrade possibly, i mean dp in general needs a buff at the lower ends ie, 296-330 those brackets seem horrible against 269 AP players
     
  17. Unranked

    Unranked Unranked Striker 63 EU

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    currently, for people buying their gear, rednose is superior since what I said about their lower price and less capras needed. aside from that, like the tests of bigandshiny concluded; dr doesnt stack linearly but has its caps where it just isn't as effective anymore. therefore there is no point in stacking more dr then we currently can.
    aditionally, the number of classes that use dr, and their popularity is much lower then the evasion side. so if they where to 'nerf' rednose into a dr equivalent, the amount of rednoses sold by evasion players would outnumber the amount of dimtree's sold by dr players, and that will probably make rednose even cheaper then it currently is.
     
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  18. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    5hp (and even mp, see mana shield) per hit would be extremely overpowered for dp builds.
     
  19. Flesh007

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    This is not from the mobile version. = )
     
  20. Luminosity

    Luminosity Valkyrie 62

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    Or just accept that Dim Tree is superior. It is the only boss piece duo there from the start. Red Nose does not fill a specific alternativ, like DR, EVA and ACC tradeoffs. Red Nose has simply been far easier to obain from the very beginning.
    You also pay about 6-8 billion less for Pen Rednose than for Pen Dim. You should decide yourself, if that is worth 200 HP or not.
     

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