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Archeage Unchained

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Catastigma, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Catastigma

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    Archrageunchanged.png
    EDIT 2 Week after release.

    Archeage still p2w, its now a Themepark mmo, its not anymore a Sandpark, Its Dailyage the correct name now, instable server, multiple exploit and zero people get ban or progression reduce be these exploit, Gamigo are unable to keep thier promise. unable to enforce thier TOS and doing more and more mistake every time thier do something.
    The list of other problem is so long that I would not take the trouble to list everything here, if you have the curiosity. take a ride on reddit.
     

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  2. Shastalya

    Shastalya Warell Musa 50 EU

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    I say wait & see.
     
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  3. ghoulz666

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    Let the corpses of victims pile up before you throw yourself onto it.
     
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  4. Tac50

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    ArcheAge just announced a break away from its origins. Archeage Unchained is said to be no p2w, no apex, a separate standalone game entirely. Hmm I may have to check this out. Any other takers interested?
     
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  5. Jaeger

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    First before i go for an old new mmorpg i wait for the comming new mmorpg called blue protocol
     
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  6. Tvvin

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    Blue Protocol looks far too amazing. Primary game worthy. I'm looking forward to that from Bandinamco LOL

    If there is no assassin class , i'm playing twin striker

    Didn't they say that before and snuck P2W in? Archage doesn't look like my type of game anyways personally.
     
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  7. Akeno

    Akeno Sorceress 62

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    This might be interesting look into once it releases
     
  8. Zelxski

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    Hmm, it sort of sounds like all the promises we were promised here with BDO, but we all know how that went.

    That said, I have ignored everything Archeage has put out talking about how they were fixing their "cash shop" issue, but I will admit that this one does have me a bit curious. If they can manage to pull this off and make a profit without having to nickle and dime its players, then maybe they can become an example to other companies about what players want when they say they don't want P2W. But we will see, only time will tell.
     
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    I think this was the best decisions they made. They are more likely betting on the current bill that is up in the Senate right. It's the bill that regulates p2w games (this includes BDO). Imagine if it passed.... that's a lot of potential money to grab all the players that are "out of games".

    I'm definitely going to try it out. Don't get me wrong I love BDO's gameplay... the monetization is just getting out of hand.
     
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  10. DarkGG

    DarkGG Darkiee Sorceress 61 NA

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    I know alot of people switching to archeage unchained. I brought me and my wife a copy. My issues with bdo is simply the lack of attempting to rework T1 node wars since the caps simply dont work, and we all know ultimately you are gearing for pvp at some point in bdo. I love the combat and graphics but at the end of the day if PA is riding on those 2 things only and not willing to focus on more balanced pvp, group content, and backing off on the cash shop i will take my money else were
     
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  11. Dringe

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    Boy, sure haven't heard that one before.

    I've tried AA for a few days when it first came out, couldn't get into it. The combat just didn't feel good for whatever reason.
    I'll watch some streams to see how is it but that's probably it.
     
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  12. Beeso

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    Companies like fishing too. Still if any of that happens, credit will go to where credit is due (even if it feels long overdue).
     
  13. FrozenReaper

    FrozenReaper Archer 62 EU

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    i was excited for start, untill i saw their unchained stream when this specific guy telling it wont be p2w bla bla then i got flashbacks from years back when they were releasing aa fresh start servers where yes in same stream same guy tells exactly same story, bet it was same script he did read lol

    edit: i wonder if they ever fixed underwater treasure 1kgold statues? mean they spawned with specific ID and ppl were abusinging it so much knowing where to find it always
     
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  14. woots

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    i'am very tempted, and it can work if they release and lot of CS outfit ( see fortnite & somes others games )
    But i'am kinda afraid they doesnt keep their promises tho

    i've read that for now, nothing is planned for the west... and from the very early video i've saw, as much as it look nice, it also feel pretty clunky.

    personaly,i still really want moonlight blade and Justice Online, but no news at all for MLB for now ( announced to come to the west last summer )
     
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  15. patagarucha

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    reddit is full of aware so dont be surprised!
    3 account max (but it does a difference to solo account) give an advantage
    consider all legacy whale alone in their server...

    But more important: no words about abuse, hack, dupe etc and that's a big red flag for me

    dont go to throw your $$ like "bless" and cry after...

    it's f2p so test it now, dont be surprised with the difference we get from BDO
     
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  16. Mana_Mafia

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    Kakao said that BDO NA was going to have zero P2W features and if pressed will still say that they haven't added any P2W features to this game, only P4C lmao.
     
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  17. Dexo 2

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    Let's get this straight...
    Non-EU companies can and do change their minds without legal recourse as companies tend to be protected greater than the clients (hell, you can even sign your rights away by accepting ToS's etc). EU companies get shafted if they change their minds or terms... false advertising, violation of contract etc. EU companies have to answer to the EU Commission (big fines) and are regulated totally differently than non-EU companies. An EU company's ToS that violates any rights of the consumer is invalid. Any ambiguity in a ToS always goes in favour of the client. An EU company that promotes a non-P2W experience is legally bound to provide it... deciding not to after 6months etc allows the client to perform a complete charge back (and leaves the company open to a big fine from the EU Commission). TRION wasn't an EU Company. Gamigo is an EU Company. Gamigo now owns TRION and thus TRION is now part of an EU Company and is bound by the rules governing Gamigo.

    Pearl abbyss is not in na/eu, thats why they can change their terms of service how ever they wanted, thats why we got p2w. Kakao doesnt dictate how our version is gonna be in the future more or less p2w, pa does it.
     
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  18. woots

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    Well, the situation is different because kakao west isnt the mainhouse, the main company still is KR, and very close to PA ( also kr ) = thoses guys most of the time dont care about the west that much. Even if it brought them a lot of money.

    So kakao west certainly thought they were able to take their own decision and have PA do special change for our region... We saw the result.... The mainhouse certainly denied nearly everything kakao west wanted regarding the buisiness model.
    tbh at the very start of BDO, kakao west certainly was full of good will....Before figuring out that mother kr doesnt give a crap

    Here, gamigo ( EU company ), now totaly own archeage for the west meaning no kr company is going to tell them to go fk themself regarding the buisiness model they want to run.
    At best the interrogation can rely on their relationship with XLgames to have the devs do special work / tweak for the western version so correctly feed that no p2w version regarding what they are going to be able to sell to make money
     
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    The region has very little to do with it. It's almost comical trying to use the "west" as the role model when they have been exploiting the entire planet. (Oil, Wars, Products, Labor). It's not really any different in gaming either. I hope Gamigo runs Archaege with a fair business model and keep to their word, but being a "western company" has no impact on that.
     
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  20. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 61 NA

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    If thats true....I'm getting more and more interested in Archage.

    I swore off Korean ran MMO's..but if its a non korean company running the show..I guess that can count as an exclusion.

    I mean look at what they did to Lost Ark in a matter of months, gdanm.
     
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