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[Banwave] 3rd Party Software & RMT Services 17/06/2020

Discussion in 'News & Announcements' started by GM Dew, Jun 17, 2020.

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  1. Foggen

    Foggen Musa 64 NA

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    Ban all bought accounts.
     
  2. GM Dew

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    To clarify, when working on this banwave, we took into account our lack of previous actions on this type of ToU violation, and decided to proceed with temporary suspensions instead of permanent ones. This will be true for incidents prior to today.

    That said, future violations may be treated differently, so those that feel tempted to engage with these kinds of services can very much consider this a warning.

    Best regards,
    GM Dew
     
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  3. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    kakao might say "but we wont ban then until they buy the same account at least twice!" :D :D :D :D :D
     
  4. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    lack of previous actions is your problem(or better to say mistake) tho. why do u punish legit players and the game itself by slapping cheaters on the hand? AGAIN, i might say.
     
  5. Mana_Mafia

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    I'd also like to see the NA/EU split.

    Can you tell us how long these temp bans are? 3 days? 7? 30?
     
  6. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    if its anything below 3 months its basically nothing. at this point im doubting its even 30 days :D.
     
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  7. Loupin

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    This is a great step forward and I appreciate the efforts! And to people saying they lose nothing by getting suspended and money removed, you do realize these idiots paid real money for these cheats and they will not get that back. This is a great step forward, yall just like to complain.
     
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  8. Mana_Mafia

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    I fear they're 7 day bans, lol.
     
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  9. Jinoro

    Jinoro Shai 61 EU

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    You do realize that these idiots paid real money for items... and they still have those items. Right? They just have a 0% interest loan for a silver that they dont need anymore.
     
  10. Loupin

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    What are you even talking about? The silver removed was a sum of the items and silver gained through RMT and pilots. Its not just silver, items were removed as well...
     
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  11. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    They might have removed silver value of dropped Tungrad rings or whatever items, but I doubt they went for the gains made with said profits. Thats the problem. I wish I am wrong tho. GMs can clarify. Will they tho?
     
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    Could have said that,

    "future violations will most definitively be treated differently, so those that feel tempted to engage with these kinds of services can very much consider this a warning."

    Although, the general translation I heard from all of that is that you've been internally looking at those $figures$ from the RMT players and wished to reform them with a temporary suspension of a undisclosed lenght. So pls buy lots of pearls!
     
  13. Jinoro

    Jinoro Shai 61 EU

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    They dont say in any moment that the items where removed. Just their silver value. Read the OP.

    U see? No mention to items.

    If thats not accurate and they removed items too, would be fantastic if some GM could tell us. But, tbh, if they didnt say anything about items... maybe thats the answer :(
     
  14. ItsSten

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    So the accounts who received permanent bans for mapping were under the guidelines of the organizers which the GMs responded within the tickets stating the account was terminated due to account sharing on fresh accounts. Anyone who was part of the mapping exploit who account shared on fresh accounts received a perma on their main for this. Yet when it comes to account sharing and paying someone else to grind for you this is a "Grey area" despite it also being account sharing? which even makes it worse being on the main offending account. When will Kakao stop favoritism and double standards on their punishments?
     
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    Lmao, a grey area? Really? Is it not in the TOS that account sharing and RMT's are prohibited? Meanwhile afuaru participants got perma'd for something as vague as "not intended vision" which btw in case you somehow forgot the same exact words were used when Snake swapped guilds to avoid the hp debuff in siege but hey that's cool no punishment there right? What a joke. This isn't a grey area, it's just ridiculous. No consistency with the GM's at all.
     
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    what about the fact that not even KR perma'd mappers? also you guys won't disclose your arbitrary "ring leader" qualification for said bans, and just banned random individuals to satiate the bloodlust the community had for the event. you just removed 25% of what you removed from that event (lol scroll value) and only suspended a few people? lol. the consistency here is laughable.

    snake gets to sidestep game mechanics by making another guild, you guys perma'd arbitrary people and won't disclose anything behind some thin veil of "muh methods", and now you only suspend RMT a rule that has been clearly known. so when you guys don't issue warnings to people, they get suspensions? what about people asking in the partner discord for weeks before the action you took regarding mapping? the fact that you knew about it before the major BR/BC map event, watched it, and only AFTER they ran their maps did you lock the map item.. man you guys are honestly a joke.
     
  17. GM Dew

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    RMT Services are not a "grey area" and that is exactly the misconception we wish to correct. They are strictly against Terms of Use, and as such we do take action on them. While we decided on temporary suspensions in today's banwave, this may change to stricter punishments in the future.

    The Afuaru Map Exploit was an entirely different situation, and is unrelated to our banwaves on third party software or RMT services.

    Best regards,
    GM Dew
     
  18. Despins

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    The imagined misconception of this grey area surrounding RMT is entirely fabricated by the RMTer themselves.

    You have been fooled.
     
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    You should probably edit this to say from now on we WILL take action as saying "we do" is false. When has there ever been a statement in the past punishing RMT Piloting?
     
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    It's very much related actually. In both cases players obtained silver that the GM's deemed unfair. In both situations a punishment was delivered. However the punishment was not consistent. Why do RMT'ers get a warning while some afuaru participants got straight perma banned with no explanation other than "you happened to be one of the people who clicked the summon scroll button"?

    Why do these players get to "redeem themselves" and others don't? The mappers that got perma banned actually put in the time and work themselves to grind and level accounts. But paying someone to grind for you is a slap on the wrist because its their first offense?

    I want to be happy that somethings actually finally being done about pilotted accounts (years too late mind you but, better late than never) but I just can't be when the punishment is completely hypocritical.
     

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