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BDO enhancing, #1 reason most quit.

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Saeva, Sep 30, 2018.

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BDO enhancing

Poll closed Sep 25, 2019.
  1. Sucks.

    45.2%
  2. Will likely be the reason I quit.

    26.5%
  3. Is the reason I quit.

    14.8%
  4. Is great and best aspect of game.

    9.3%
  5. Is something I just live with

    30.3%
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  1. Saeva

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    Well, I had 4 IRL friends that played BDO. We all love the game, except ONE aspect. Enhancing? Great guess.

    We were all at softcap or tickling softcap. 3 of us quit ~2 weeks ago when Caphras proved to need stupid amounts to even TET, and didn't work on *accessories*. The other friend just PEN roulette on a 130+ stack, and TET roulette last night. Now he's DUO on all and quit, IMO he wanted to quit after 40 failed TET attempts on his Nouver.


    This leaves just myself. Who hates enhancing just as much. Particularly the Accessories. And I hate enhancing enough to swear I'd Never go PEN. I almost quit just getting TETs.

    So I guess, BDO devs. Your enhancing system BLOWS. and is probably one of the highest reasons players quit. if not THE Highest. Caphras are a joke. Cron is a cash grab, I'd say PTW but I've seen plenty of Cron fails so it really makes no noticeable difference to the game except in PA's pockets. All the gamer's see it, we're not stupid. Overreact a bit, but not stupid.
     
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  2. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    what i dislike about it is that it is basically LUCK. and that one guy one taps tet accessories while you cant even get a tri from a batch of 50 items.
     
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  3. Rayin

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    For each of those many fails, there are as much as success.
    It's not a coincidence that PEN from being something rare and scattered across various guilds, now are becoming more common, so it does a noticeable difference, if you just look at a single person or a streak of 10 fails from 10 different people, doesn't prove that somewhere else PEN are made and in a consistent quantity.

    Even in RBF is more noticeable than before, the geargap was big but not as big as now.
     
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  4. Blitzball

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    Ofc it sucks. I play since release and i still have Asula beginner set.

    Kakao should remove accessories loss if the enhancement fail. Or only the base accessory material, not the one we try to upgrade

    Exemple for Kakao :

    I try to enhance my TRI Crescent Ring. I need a base crescent ring as a "material". Currently , if i fail , i loose BOTH. :(

    My suggestion : If it fails , i loose only the base crescent ring , not the TRI one. ( it's still 40 millions lost ). Fair enough ! :)
     
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  5. I voted "sucks" cause it does, badly.
     
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  6. farsay

    farsay Mystic 62 NA

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    it sucks, but on the flip side, if you get lucky with it, it is the best feeling ever, and thats what this game feeds on. trust me, some people who got lucky will come and defend the system, those who are out of luck will say they dont like it, in other words, it is a very subjective matter to discuss. ill give you an example, tet procs at 36 fs, tri fails up to 81 fs, so as you can see, i was happy with the TET proc, but the tri fail is still perplexing me
     
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  7. Asato

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    Are you implying that the success rates are 50/50 with that "as much" of yours?
     
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  8. Saeva

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    Long story short, Enhancing is Gambling. If you like gambling @ slot machines, then BDO is for you.
     
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  9. Asato

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    There's a FS cap... so u could have failed with 200 FS at TRI.

    And well... it's basically gambling you're describing :)
    So ... "subjective" really. XD
     
  10. charkus

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    BDO enhancing is like:
    Do 3bil one week, spened hours trying to snipe ogres or put overprized preorder for it, being pissed for not being able to go pass 15fs before all ur items go +15, do multiple tri green armors below 30fs trying to go forward but fail multiple tri accs with 50+.
    Then going for tet is like doing 0/10 tet accs and at the same moment reading in world chat someone linking tet ogre with a "lol 60fs first try" message.

    You cant change this anyway, its like removing the slot machines from a casino, literally.
     
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  11. Rayin

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    No, i'm implying that success rate can't be grasped simply looking at numbers.
    The number of PEN increased, that's a fact.
    Are you implying that it didn't? 43 PEN during the first day of Cron Stone release.
     
  12. charkus

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    Yea, thats another reason to quit.
     
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  13. Zhev

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    just look up the statistics, the playerloss is massive currently and since it is already affecting the economy in a negative way you can expect that good chunks of the "only" lifeskill faction will follow soon.(remastered brings them one positive week, i cant stop laughing)
    im just here waiting for the next prove of complete incompetence game design wise but im sure their buisness managment have a few more genius ideas for our "game saving" whales
     
  14. MGTOWinBDO

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    People still enjoy the casino with no comps?
     
  15. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    Your vote is just ****.
    I actually enjoy enhancing, even if i fail with it. It's basically the reason i play this game.
     
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  16. Lemon Crush

    Lemon Crush CreamLemon Witch 62 NA

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    Stop trying to justify/defend a system that is incredibly skewed. It is just a bad mechanic. Even more so because real money is tied to it in a very big way now.

    One person shouldnt be one tapping PEN at 17 stacks while another has failed 40 times with a 100+ stack. It is extremely disproportionate.

    Enchanting is BDO's endgame and its a trash system meant to punish and milk people that have no patience or gambling problems.
     
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  17. Chaos Ronin

    Chaos Ronin RyunokoDynasty Mystic 61 NA

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    12k on Pen attempts and failed them all.............
     
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  18. Srich

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    43? You mean 143 bro :)
     
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  19. Srich

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    True true... but after making 2 pens with over 100 attemps ,which half of them were made with crone stones ( with silver and not real money ) , i can say that this system sucks :D (and if its your reason for keeping playing the game its cuz they messed up the pvp months ago) ... meanwhile i know some ppl who one tapped pen at 70 fs three times already. They should change the enchant system cuz the capras thing is not a real change its just a way to boost your PENS..

    MY best time in this game was pre merge when i was spending tons of time in arena to learn and improve my gameplay with kinda no gear at all.. now pvp is just a YoloGearFest with no strategy and no fun at all.
     
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  20. Vanadiel

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    You forgot to add "show enhancement chances at all times instead of hiding them".
    If they show than most people will see for themselves just how terrible this system is.

    They do not want people to know the chance of success, because there would be an outrage.
    Instead they let everyone guess and spread "information" around.
    Nobody can even prove that fail stacking actually works and for all we know it might just be thrown in the mix to make you build fail stacks and waste even more silver.

    And they have this tied into the marketplace to ensure nobody would enhance for profit. The set prices in the marketplace are in place to support the gear enchants. Whatever else they tell you is not the truth.

    And they lost an opportunity with Caphras stones to redeem this system, but blew it by putting the required number of stones so high it is not a really feasible upgrade path and you might as well keep gambling away.

    All they had to do is add enhancement chance +1% per Caphras stone and people would have been perfectly happy.
     
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