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BDO - Kamasylvia - Freshwater Fishing Guide

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  1. Moonraker

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    BDO - Kamasylvia - Freshwater Fishing Guide

    UPDATE: The Kamasylvia fishing guide information has now been incorporated into a new and updated freshwater fishing guide. Please refer to that guide for Kamasylvia fish lists in the future. This post is up to date post 10 October 2018 fish table changes but wont be updated further. Thanks.

    Moonraker - EU

    BDO - Freshwater Fishing Guide - Version 2.0

    Updates
    • 25 October 2018 - Striped Shiner species added back to the Big group now caught across the region, except for Common only tables. Presumably as an unannounced change in the 24 October 2018 Patch Note update.
    • 18 October 2018 - Removed Ancient Relic Crystal Shard and Silver Key from the Kamasylvia F - Lake Flonder table, as tests since the change have had neither (except the additional drops from weekend event). It's possible the Rare percentage of catch is larger as part of this change. Needs more testing to confirm.
    • 15 October 2018 - All Kamasylvia fish tables have been resampled with a full 192 catch (no enhanced equipment used and auto-trash off). Changes have been made were required. Also a new section for this covering Patch Note changes and also unannounced changes to the fish tables has been added (*).
    • 10 October 2018 - There were extensive changes to Fishing included in the 10 October 2018 Patch Notes. The previous guide details are therefore out dated and require revision.
    • 20 November 2017 - Added the Draft Revision version for Kamasylvia Part 2.
    • 21 November 2017 - Added revised lists, description and map to cover the release of Kamasylvia Part 2 with the 15 November 2017 Patch Notes.
    • 06 December 2017 - The Gold Key item has been added to some fish tables in the 29 Nov 2017 Patch Notes (no note for this) notably in Margoria ocean areas, Velia Hotspot, Grana city & Lake Flonder in Kamasylvia. it is not known if this is a permanent change as it is impacting relic drop rate in these areas. When this is confirmed then the guide will be updated.
    • 10 January 2018 - The addition of the Gold Key item in high drop rate was reversed after some weeks. Now it has been either removed totally or remains but only as a very low drop rate. Therefore it is hard to confirm personally in all previous waters (see above 06 December 2017 note) but will be added when confirmed.
    • 10 January 2018 - It is reported from reliable sources that it is possible to fish a Bronze Key from at least two Kamasylvia fish tables though I have not fished them personally to confirm so will leave as a note for now. The waters reported were Lake Flonder and Okiara River.
    • 13 April 2018 - The Laila's Petal blue quality item has been added as a low drop rate chance to all regions, both freshwater and saltwater. The item is used for the new Fairy pet.
    Introduction

    This fishing guide covers both Kamasylvia Part 1 & Part 2 areas which make up the region of Kamasylvia. That is, the current regional content released both in Korea and here in our region (EU/NA).

    With the launch of the Kamasylvia Part 1 region, new fish species became available as noted in the 27 September 2017 Patch Notes;

    Fishes native to Kamasylvia have been added to the Fish Encyclopedia.

    These new species were added to my Freshwater Fish Species List from details on the KR forums and data base entries back in February 2017 and confirmed in-game along with fish tables and locations.

    With the launch of Kamasylvia Part 2 in the 15 November 2017 Patch Notes adding a few additional fishing tables, a new fish species and extensive fishing available, this new area is now also included in this guide.

    The fishing content available in Kamasylvia outdoes by far other freshwater fishing in the game. It even has more fish tables than the Margoria expansion, for example.

    The attention to detail in providing new fish species, varied fish tables utilised across the whole region even for the smallest water bodies is noticeable and very welcome for fishers. The developers have really shown thought and care in the design, balance and content. It really makes Kamasylvia an exciting prospect for fishing, along with the attractive architecture and landscapes.

    Main points
    • Unlike other regions which have a single freshwater fish table, Kamasylvia has multiple fish table zones, eight in total (more than Margoria).
    • Generally each fish table has 1 high value rare species, 2 yellow species and a larger proportion of higher value yellow/ blue quality fish.
    • Two new rare, high value, low drop rare freshwater species, the Golden Siniperca and Granges D'or.
    • Two unique, low drop chance items via fishing (Bottle with a Note & Giant Fish Bones).
    • Slightly faster fishing speed than other freshwater regions with an average of around 32-34 seconds cast > bite time.
    • Relic drop chance appears slightly higher in the Kamasylvia Part 1 fish tables than other areas. Possibly lower in the two no-trash Kamasylvia 2 tables (yet to be confirmed).
    • Higher drop rate (still low) of the Breezy Conch Seaweed item than other areas.
    Species list

    These new species are:
    Not noted in the patch notes but now available also a low drop chance region-wide fishing are:
    Also now included in all fishing waters;
    Reference

    For information on the other regional freshwater fishing and saltwater fishing including both original sea areas and Margoria, refer to them directly from the following Fishing Guides:

    BDO - Freshwater Fishing Guide
    BDO - Ocean Fishing Guide
    BDO - Margoria Fishing Guide

    * Update for changes in 10 October 2018 Patch Notes

    The 10 October 2018 Patch Notes included some fundamental changes to fishing in the game, including both announced and unannounced changes to species values, equipment enhancement effects, change to species qualities and the actual fish tables themselves.

    Fishing guide update

    I have now completed a full inventory catch re-sample of all fish tables across Kamasylvia and adjusted them in the guide so they should be accurate now. It's possible that there may be some additional species not caught. If you find any please post a screenshot and details so that they can be added.

    Notes and observations from the changes

    The main points mentioned in the patch notes are;
    • Calpheon Fishing Rod/ Ash Tree Float 0 > +10 - Chance to catch Big Fish 1 > 11%
    • Mediah Fishing Rod/ Maple Float 0 > +10 - Chance to catch Rare Fish 1 > 5%
    • All white quality species changed to green quality. Some of species upgraded from blue > yellow.
    • Fish quality grades now:
    White = Junk items
    Green = Common
    Blue = Big
    Yellow = Rare


    Note: not all fish tooltips have been updated in line with these changes. All Kamasylvia blue species are still noted as Rare on their tooltips. Hopefully these will be corrected soon.​
    • Trade value of all fish increase with yellow species receiving bigger increases. To balance income the higher quality species have been reduced as a percentage of catch.
    From initial testing the main observations are:
    • Changes to the fishing equipment mean that the Calpheon Fishing Rod and Ash Float have little use now (limited even before to saltwater fishing) as the blue species percentage of the catch is reduced and the main value of a fish catch will be the increased value yellow species, not the blue. It's use is now limited to title hunting or possibly a few quests that require specific blue species. Mediah/ Maple combo remain the choice for active fishing and Balenos/ Maple for passive fishing (due to slower fishing speed in freshwater, or Mediah for smaller inventories now).
    • Relic drop rates remain similar to that before the change, given the RNG nature of low drop rate items plus the ongoing Fever Time weekend relic event chance for additional relics with normal catch) which will increase relics caught at these times.
    • Although the notes state that all blue quality species are now Big label on tooltips, all the Kamasylvia blue species are still marked as Rare on the tooltips at least. probably an oversight and reported as a bug which is being investigated. This should have been fixed with the 17 October 2018 Patch Notes update (mentioned in notes).
    • Not noted in the Patch Notes, the fish tables have been changed. All the blue species previously caught in specific fishing areas (generally two species in each) are now caught across all Kamasylvia fish tables. The exception is the Striped Shiner which has been removed from all fish tables in the region. It is now only available in Serendia waters.
    • Due to the change of quality for white quality species to green quality Common species, the inventory will fill faster even with Auto-trash enabled, as green quality catch is not auto-trashed. This is less of an issue in freshwater fishing where the fishing speed is slower than in saltwater areas but will impact those with limited inventory space over longer passive sessions.
    • The blue only tables found on the coast and a few other spots are now green only with the removal from the region of Striped Shiner species.
    • Trash added now to Grana and Lake Flonder where it didn't exist previously.
    Kamasylvia freshwater fish table list

    Notes
    Refer to the Kamasylvia Fish Table Location Map at the end of the list which identifies all fish-able water bodies in the region (possibly some small pools not marked on the game map not included but most are).
    This list is divided into the eight fish tables available in the region of Kamasylvia (Part 1&2).
    The node name associated with each table is given but they are to aid identification chiefly and often
    cover other node areas also. Or, have other table/s within that node area.
    Refer to the Associated nodes listed for each and the indicative areas indicated on the map.

    Kamasylvia A - Kamasylvia Vicinity

    Associated nodes include: Kamasylvia Vicinity

    Fish Species
    None

    Trash
    Broken Bottle Fragment
    Fertilizer Sack
    Washed-Up Laundry

    Other
    None

    Note
    Possibly a bugged fish table as it is not the normal Default Fish Table (sandeel/ surfperch, fish bones, seaweed). Appears to be no fish or other items in this table. Remains the same after the 10 October 2018 Patch Note changes.

    Kamasylvia B - Atanis Pond

    Associated nodes include: Atanis Pond, Atanis Waterway, Caduil Forest, Krogdalo Trace, Mansuam Forest, Mirumok Ruins, Polly's Forest, Shady Tree Forest, Southern Kamasylvia, Tooth Fairy Cabin (North), Tooth Fairy Forest (North), Viv Foretta's Cabin

    Fish Species
    Golden Siniperca (Rare)
    Mandarin Fish
    Spotted Barbel

    Arowana
    Cherry Salmon
    Diamond Minnow
    Lenok
    Striped Shiner
    Yellow-Headed Catfish

    Amur Minnow
    Bass
    Yellowfin Sculpin


    Trash
    Snapped Rope
    Tattered Boot
    Torn Net

    Other
    Ancient Relic Crystal Shard
    Silver Key
    Breezy Conch Seaweed
    Bottle with a Note
    Giant Fish Bone

    Note
    One of the fish tables introduced with Kamasylvia Part 1 and appears to have a slightly higher than average relic drop rate. Also includes a very low chance of fishing up a Bottle with a Note quest item, or a Giant Fish Bone house ornament.

    Kamasylvia C - Navarn Steppe

    Associated nodes include: Loopy Tree Forest, Mirumok Ruins, Navarn Springs, Navarn Steppe, Shady Tree Forest, Tooth Fairy Cabin (South), Tooth Fairy Forest (South), Western Valtarra Mountains

    Fish Species
    Golden Siniperca (Rare)
    Pacu
    Swiri

    Arowana
    Cherry Salmon
    Diamond Minnow
    Lenok
    Striped Shiner
    Yellow-Headed Catfish

    Stumpy Bullhead
    Sweetfish

    Goby Minnow

    Trash
    Snapped Rope
    Tattered Boot
    Torn Net

    Other
    Ancient Relic Crystal Shard
    Silver Key
    Breezy Conch Seaweed
    Bottle with a Note
    Giant Fish Bone

    Note
    One of the fish tables introduced with Kamasylvia Part 1 and appears to have a slightly higher than average relic drop rate. Also includes a very low chance of fishing up a Bottle with a Note quest item, or a Giant Fish Bone house ornament.

    Kamasylvia D - Okiara River

    Fish Species
    Golden Siniperca (Rare)
    Leather Carp
    Miho Spine Loach

    Arowana
    Cherry Salmon
    Diamond Minnow
    Lenok
    Striped Shiner
    Yellow-Headed Catfish

    Common Minnow
    Grayling

    Bleeker

    Trash
    Broken Bottle Fragment
    Fertilizer Sack
    Washed-Up Laundry
    Other
    Ancient Relic Crystal Shard
    Silver Key
    Breezy Conch Seaweed
    Bottle with a Note
    Giant Fish Bone

    Note
    One of the fish tables introduced with Kamasylvia Part 1 and appears to have a slightly higher than average relic drop rate. Also includes a very low chance of fishing up a Bottle with a Note quest item, or a Giant Fish Bone house ornament.

    Kamasylvia E - Grána city

    Associated nodes include: Grána

    Fish Species
    Golden Siniperca (Rare)
    Granges D'or (Rare)
    Spotted Barbel
    Miho Spined Loach

    Arowana
    Cherry Salmon
    Diamond Minnow
    Lenok
    Striped Shiner
    Yellow-Headed Catfish

    Stumpy Bullhead
    Sweetfish
    Goby Minnow


    Trash
    Snapped Rope
    Tattered Boot
    Torn Net

    Other
    Ancient Relic Crystal Shard
    Silver Key
    Gold Key
    Breezy Conch Seaweed

    Note
    Fish table confined to the city boundaries, with other tables outside, even within the safe zone.
    No trash group in the table.
    The previously higher than normal Golden Siniperca drop rate popular for distance trading option has been brought in line with other Kamasylvia tables as a low drop rate since the 03 October 2018 Patch Notes (noted change), high value catch now making Grana less appealing. Trash was also added to the fish table. The relic rate may have been increased to the normal Kamasylvia rate to balance this but need testing.
    The new high value rare species, the Granges D'Or appears to have a lower drop rate even for rare fish.
    The average relic drop rate appears lower than the Kamasylvia Part 1 fish tables (B,C&D). But may have changed on 10 October 2018, see comment above.
    No Bottle with a Note or Giant Fish Bone items confirmed caught to date.

    Kamasylvia F - Lake Flonder

    Associated nodes include: Grána (East), Lake Flonder, Okiara River
    Fish Species
    Golden Siniperca (Rare)
    Pacu
    Swiri

    Arowana
    Cherry Salmon
    Diamond Minnow
    Lenok
    Striped Shiner
    Yellow-Headed Catfish

    Stumpy Bullhead
    Sweetfish
    Goby Minnow


    Trash
    Snapped Rope
    Tattered Boot
    Torn Net

    Other
    Breezy Conch Seaweed

    Note
    Since the 10 October 2018 Patch Notes update, Relics and Silver keys are not dropping. Presumably removed from the table by mistake or some other reasoning.
    Trash added with the 10 October 2018 Patch Note changes. Relics and keys appear to have been removed. The Rare (yellow) species percentage appears larger than other waters perhaps as a balance. Needs testing to confirm.
    No Bottle with a Note or Giant Fish Bone items confirmed caught to date.

    Kamasylvia G - Coastal (Inland)

    Associated nodes include: Grana (West), Gyfin Rhasia Temple, Krogdalo Trace, Looney Cabin, Loopy Tree Forest, Okiara River, Tooth Fairy Forest, Yianaro's Field

    Fishing species
    Amur Minnow
    Bass
    Yellowfin Sculpin


    Trash
    Snapped Rope
    Tattered Boot
    Torn Net

    Other
    None

    Note
    Blue only fish table.
    No relic/key/conch group in this table.
    Used primarily in a zone approximately 100-200m inland the sea but also a few small pools inland.

    Kamasylvia H - Coastal (Sea)

    Associated nodes include: Acher West Camp, Grana (West), Gyfin Rhasia Temple, Krogdalo Trace, Looney Cabin, Loopy Tree Forest, Okiara River, Southern Kamasylvia, Tooth Fairy Forest

    Fishing species
    Amur Minnow
    Bass
    Yellowfin Sculpin


    Trash items
    Broken Bottle Fragment
    Fertilizer Sack
    Washed-Up Laundry

    Other
    None

    Note
    Placeholder fish table for the sea areas that are fishable in Kamasylvia, along the coast.
    This is the same fish table that was (and still is)possible to fish over the barrier from Ross Sea to part of the fogged Kamasylvia coast.
    It is not possible to fish whole coastline due to partial invisible barriers which give a null cast.

    Map - Kamasylvia Fish Table Location Map

    [​IMG]

    Hope this is of help and interest to the fellow fishers out there.

    Tight Lines!

    Moonraker [EU]
     
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  2. Desado

    Desado Wizard 61 NA

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    The time and passion you put into gathering and reporting new fishing information is both amazing and appreciated. It's a bright spot of selflessness among a swamp of negativity on the forums. Everytime anyone goes to somethinglovely to look up where to find a fish for a guild mission or need that hard to find fish for knowledge for a title they have you to thank.
    Thank you.

    edit: Sweet mother of pearl, I didn't think it was possible to make the guide any more epic.
     
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  3. Moonraker

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    Thanks for the kind words. Glad to spread the fishing fun.
     
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    Thank you for taking the time to gather this information and sharing it with everyone so fast after the Kama pt1 update.
     
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    As always a well prepared and presented post. Thank you for the time and effort you have put in for the community. :)
     
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  6. Moonraker

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    Glad it's of use for you. Hope you enjoy the time in Kama, it's a beautiful place to fish.
     
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    Bravo!Keep the good work.
     
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  8. Vivianna

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    Supposubly (with a 'b') there is a Kamasylvia Fishing Quest (in Atanis?) - but I haven't been able to find it. Is there a a pre-requisite? And does anyone know which NPC you can get it from?
     
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    There is but you need to be Level 58 in order to commence quests in Kamasylvia including the fishing quest.

    When Level 58 the Black Spirit will give the starter quest as noted in the 27 Sep 2017 Patch Notes:
    New quests about the Kamasylvia Territory have been added.

    • Accept the main quest Kamasylvia, the Land Behind the Veil from Black Spirit, and your journey that encompasses Calpheon, Lemoria Guard Post, and Valtarra Mountains will begin. (For Lv. 58 and above)
    Quest details:

    Kamasylvia, the Land Behind the Veil

    Fishing quest (short) chain from Atanis Pond starts with (see link for location of NPC):

    Oily Fish

    The quest requirements noted on the BDDatabase site are:

    Quest requirements:
    Finished quest: Encouraging Reinforcements
    Fishing: Skilled 1
    Required to open quests
    Forest Angler


    There is another fishing quest (repeatable) linked to the requisite quest/s:

    [Repeat] Nutritious Meal for the Wounded

    Check quest requirements on the linked page for that one.​
     
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  10. Vivianna

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    Ok, thanks! What I didn't do yet is "Encouraging Reinforcements."

    That helps a lot.
     
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    Glad it helps. Good luck with it. The Yellowfin Sculpin are the only white quality fish in the Atanis Pond area so should be quick to catch. The Bass may take a little longer for other quest as the Amur Minnow drops more but should drop OK.

    My pleasure. Hope it proves useful for you.
     
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    Unable to parse data in my tiny brain, please tell me best relic spot <3
     
  13. Moonraker

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    As noted:
    • Relic chance similar to all other areas at around 3% drop rate.
    Relic drop rate really doesn't vary much in any location, over time. So decide on whether the better fish catch value is worth fishing in Kamasylvia. It is also a bit faster fishing than other freshwater fishing on other regions.

    The drop rate really wont vary wherever you fish in Kama (or elsewhere).

    The main consideration for relics is to ensure there is inventory space for the chance of the relic drop. No more slots left, no chance of relics.

    For players with small/ medium inventory space freshwater makes sense as it has more trash/ white fish % in the fish table which is discarded with Auto-trash option enabled.

    Heidel is really slow fishing especially as it always Exhausted, like over double the time cast > bite time over Kama. If you have inventory slots left after overnight session there then Kama would be a good choice based on silver income.

    For active fishing it is a lot better due to more silver from better quality fish and faster fishing. But sea fishing especially in Margoria waters will always be best due to even faster fishing and better quality % with large/max. inventory space Just reward for more hassle of sailing etc.
     
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    I appreciate the time you spent in giving me a quality response, even though I didn't necessarily deserve one :D
    Thank you!
     
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    you know where i can find gunnel? i tried below cron's castle bridge one whole night and araki island didnt found it

    jellyfish knowledge how can i obtain?
     
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    Gunnel is from around the Flounder fish marker in Velia bay. It is one of the Balenos Islands fish tables:

    Balenos Islands

    B. Location: Mid channel around the ‘Flounder’ marker in Velia bay, mid channel SW of NPC otter Erio and N out of Velia waters.

    Flounder
    Gunnel
    Sandeel
    Silver-Stripe Round Herring
    Starfish
    Tongue Sole

    Note:
    Green quality limit to fish table. High proportion of trash items.

    Link above to the BDO - Ocean Fish Species List which includes this (use browser search for fish name).

    For Jellyfish there is one who's knowledge is gained from using a musket/ hunting in Lake Kaia.

    The other is now possible to gain knowledge (was bugged) from catching Jellyfish in the sea. see the linked list to find where. Probably easiest close to the Gunnel, at the Amberjack fish marker close to Coastal Caves.

    Good luck.
     
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  17. Desado

    Desado Wizard 61 NA

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    Seriously dude, those of us who delve deep into these cubby holes really appreciate the care you take in helping out our community.

    Cheers,

    Maugrem
     
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    My pleasure. Just cool to share the fishing interest.
     
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    Some friendly advice:
    Dont afk fish outside of safezones.
     

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