buff tamer (Cus it's the weakest class in bdo)

awesome thanks with your combo tamer works again ... you just fixed all the bugs... can i send you some PEARS pls? really i would even send you some cash ... NOT ...

pls do us a favor and just move on to the next forum/thread ... whatever ... thank you in advance!

 

Keep being a salty pleb.

 

Keep being a salty pleb.

 

1v1 where everything goes your way? Might be so. That's irrelevant though, because arena victories don't count for anything. Classes that have no passive DR or Evasion increases are the baseline of squish in this game. Rangers, Tamers, DK's are among those. Tamer is worst off because so many classes inflict magic damage in this game.

Tamers damage can be pretty good, no argument there. Yet it's got a severe limitation: Heilang. We can hit a group with CC, get a bunch of stun or float off legendary beast dance, but the real damage of those attacks are the pup, who will hit 1...maybe, maybe 2 people, and the second one will get a half hit. The damage tamer does is from him. If you have a tamer yourself as you said you played it, get heilang out, do LBD and cancel it with Q, watch Heilang's attacks. They will 4 shot another tamer if everyone stands still. Then do those 4 hits without heilang, and see how "great" our damage is.

Then compare that to Sorc doing DoD-dash-Violation-GRJ to 2-4 people all standing next to each other. If one of them's a tamer, see how much more damage they take than everyone else.

 

And you will continue to say it because people don't listen. I'm terrible at this game, but just about everything you've said is something i've experienced at one point or another. The problem is that 90% of the complaints about tamer we get from other classes are a result of 1v1 encounters where they just didn't do anything right and gave in to frustration so they lost over and over again, then blame us and our class for it.

Truth is, if you do things correctly in this game, most of the time Tamer is at a disadvantage. It's by other people being terrible and Heilang RNG that we win as often as we do because what we do well, there are other classes who do it better and have less hampering them. That's just the game's meta, it doesn't cater to classes that are limited to skirmishing.

 

I'm going to leave it that your bad and know nothing about the class

 

I play tamer since japan beta, top growth rank EU for months still top after barely 1 year afk, played in best zerk guilds but yeah I probably don't know the class I played for thousands of hours.


The issue with this thread is people like you who question the comments of the most experienced tamers in EU/NA.

Bonus tips : "you are bad" or you're bad" not "your bad".

 

So i just did that - LBD canceled by Q - and the animation of heilang attacking still plays, although i assume by your mentioning this the attacks don't go through? And i've never said that tamers are good in 1vx. They don't have the kit for it, but if i were to resume what i mentioned earlier about tamer being better than ninja or kuno, at least tamer can complete its task of being an assassin. Tamers aren't meant to rush in and take groups of people on at a time. It's not one of the top tier classes that can do that.
As for the dp test id actually love to do that if i wasnt getting disconnected every 10minutes im online. Any pvp isn't currently possible until this IDC thing is fixed.

 

1. Tamer's attacking power in 1 vs 1 is great If tamer can get close and do CC grab combo, tamer is OP strong.
2. KR don't have much ping + KR tamer don't have problem with Super Armor and Front Guard glitch or bug. N/A tamer still have problem with it.
3. Tamer uses dashing skill to get closer to target. These dashing skill should have SA or SA > Front guard. It doesn't work sometimes and get downed or stuned. N/A Kakao team can't fix this problem.
4. Only tamer recieve 25~35% more magic damage. Tamer's HP is lower, Tamer's Magic defense is nerfed, Tamer's original defense is weaker. Tamer's mobility is slower. If you fight againt tamer, you can always just run away and come back after full HP. Tamer can't even catch witch/ wiz.

5. Tamer is going to super OP, IF
A. Tamer's SA/ front guard bug fixed.
B. Tamer's gear set is full evade + defense ex:200~220AP with 320~340 DP
C. Delete negative 25~35% magic defense penalty.
D. Current KR 2nd awakening 2nd skill.

 

ah, no. I was saying that Heilang is a huge chunk of our damage and he doesn't contribute when fighting multiples very well. You say we weren't designed to take on half a zerg by ourselves, yah...i agree. Though we could survive to help our team more effectively if they fixed the skills that aren't working properly. Though desync will still be an issue. Ninja can outburst a Tamer though, given equivalent GS though, and Kuno is much more handy at fighting multiple targets than either of those two classes are. Tamer is between them, honestly. Fights multiples better than Ninja, can kill a single target better than Kuno, but can't do what either of them are usually built to do as well as them.

 

The most experienced tamers in EU/NA were the ones that played KR and NA beta and since launch. You are not one of them lol.

 

i guarantee you don't even know the best tamer combo lol or even can use your iframe correctly

 

Yeah, but let's not get into complaining about desync at this point in the conversation. :P

 

well to be fair if a tamer who doesn't have the best engage and disengage couldn't that would be quite stupid,since musa are quite easily a high tier class once gear hits a certain level, easily killing or severly injuring while never worried about how do I get away...musa and maewa have the some of the best pick off potential and sneak attack in the game. given they do need to hit a high ap cap. tamers on the other hand only have a fair engage and disengage. being we have to usually engage with moonlight and use cloud riding for escape. even using that rangers, warrior, zerks, musa, maewa, dk, witches and wiz, striker, can quite easily pursue a tamer and catch them, while you wont ever catch musa or maewa unless the corner themselves.

 

Holy crap, this thread is still going.

 

This is a thread where all the Tamer players can delude themselves that they're the weakest class in the game, keeps them somewhat contained which is a good thing.
Except for that one troll that keeps shitting up most threads tho.

 

Please never leave the game though.