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Can someone explain me how market works? seems like its not.

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by MENT, Nov 15, 2019.

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  1. Andaro

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    The market does increases prices the more something sells at a higher price, however some items also get manually adjusted. Some items also adjust faster than others and have had their adjustment rates reduced or increased.
     
  2. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 61 NA

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    That is a glitch, due to all weapon prices for all classes being mandated to be the same for what ever dumb reason. Iv promoted free market since the beginning as well, and It got us this central market overhaul at least compared to what we had before...and I have come to realize the massive massive pitfalls of a open market in a mmorpg that is not regulated to be 18+.

    If RMT is not allowed, its impossible for a free market and trading to work fairly in games.
     
  3. Fearless V

    Fearless V TranscendentSoul Mystic 58 NA

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    If what you say is true. Than why have this been the case for over 2 weeks now?

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    I'd like it if people like yourself, try not to talk to us like we are dumb. and can't see at all.

    NEARLY 3 WEEKS WITH NO PRICE ADJUSTMENT!

    Does this seem right to you?
     
  4. Andaro

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    Hey, I never said everything was adjusted, I only said there were adjustments that were made, but need stated what items.

    Yes, I do agree that there are items that should be adjusted. I have opinions regarding many of them.

    Additionally there are some items that don't change as they are economical anchors.

    Also that first menu only shows base prices, but not the price the item is currently being traded at.

    Furthermore, the market responds to user buys and sells (supply and demand) in such a way that if more people are buy TRIs than Tests those prices are naturally going to increase, versus the latter
     
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    Fearless V TranscendentSoul Mystic 58 NA

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    Are you serious here picking a fight with me to defend such broken mechanics? LIKE REALLY DUDE?

    It's also not just a few items either. This is happening with many items on the marketplace. But I guess you would have to actually play the game, and deal with selling things on the marketplace to notice such things.

    Nice try tho, I rate your bait at a 3 out of 10.
     
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    BMC prices aren't at 800k anymore. It is 2.4+ million for the lowest.
     
  7. flukeSG2

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    Isn't that your own fault for having gear you don't want or need? Also like @Kynreaa said all weapon prices for all classes have been equalized to prevent...abuse, lol. So you think the same people who abused the system and flipped cheap gears into over priced ones, wouldn't abuse a free market. Wow, your faith in humanity is amazing. Good thing it won't happen because there is no such thing as a free market without rules or regulations and that's for a good reason.

    Obviously they just aren't doing as good a job monitoring and adjusting their market like they do in EVE Online, which should come as no surprise.
     
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    Actually it's rather surprising since they own the very game you pointed out.
     
  9. Andaro

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    Have to take into consideration (regarding monitoring the markets) that there are multiple regions with their own markets, so changes that they make will affect all of them ,and what might not necessarily be a problem in one might be a problem in another /vice-versa.
     
  10. Fearless V

    Fearless V TranscendentSoul Mystic 58 NA

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    I personally would really love for PA to use CCP's economist to manage BDO marketplace too. Because current marketplace is objectively broken on a fundamental level.

    I would love to get Eve version of a Marketplace over here in BDO. I don't think I've seen a better multiplayer marketplace than the one in Eve. ESO's market with the guild trader theme is a close 2nd.
     
  11. Smileybones

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    That's your opinion and it's not even remotely objective. There are pros and cons to both types of economy, that's what objective to begin with.

    Another piece of objective fact is that if BDO economy was dysfunctionnal on a fundamental level as you dramatically put it, there would be tons of feedback from buyers unable to buy most items and/or most sellers unable to sell most items. The reality is that there is some illogical but anecdotical situations while the rest of the market is working rather well.
     
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    Disappointing really.
     
  13. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 61 NA

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    Yea, that was their excuse, prevent abuse and like plenty of people warned..this glitch is a byproduct.
    Duo archer mainhands are more expensive then Tri witch mainhand apparently, and it seems it also wont let duo outprice tri's.

    Its strange too, cause people told them NOT to do this for ingame items, but instead for Pearl costumes so we could get variations instead of certain costumes stuck at lowest price..they did the opposite.
     
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    I bought them at 800k and less. That mean 70M and less cost in a manos tools etc. So why should I buy overpriced BMC so I can sell a tool etc. under value? Makes no sense right?

    Most items work as their price devolopment show.
     
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    They bought them, but the same people continue to run EVE Online, but you'd think they might compare notes or something right?

    ...but EVE Online isn't a free market either, it has fewer regulations for sure, but they are there and monitored by the economist like you mentioned.

    I don't think it's necessarily a glitch, just lack of oversight. A TRI Dande of x class shouldn't be selling for billions more than y class just because it's fotm. What happens/ed was people were buying all the least desirable class weapons and flipping them with exchange tickets to make huge profits from rerolls, making it difficult to obtain those class weapons. It makes sense to me, they just aren't doing a good job monitoring their market.

    $5 says they'll do a better job of it in Black Desert Mobile, they've been doing everything else there better so far, lol!
     
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  16. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 61 NA

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    Yea, I see why they did it..It was also unfair use of the exchange coupons to buyout Pens from recently broken classes, and get a cheap upgrade from TET to PEN on your main as well...I think some busted classes PENS had dropped close to FOTM Tet prices.

    I mean they created a Pay2PEN scenario then tried to band-aid it with market manipulation...Its failing..The bandaids falling off, time for a new approach.

    You're prolly correct though about mobile.
     
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    Maybe ask your parents to teach you about ethanol. It's very easy to make. Those of us that grew up in the south know. Anyways here's my front porch today. You see part of the land I own is rented out to the power company and in this arrangement we were given our own generator flows, solar power and wind turbines.

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    People from the horse forums can see it's the same property as my horse pics from two years ago.
     
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    I think there's a huge knowledge gap between city people and rural folk. The thought that government is needed for survival or to know where your bottled water came from is probably a view of city people. People that go to college for 12 years but have no clue how to be self sustaining. People unaware that The new Hemp market in some states is making Us wealthy and able to produce our own fuels from the left over hemp production. Sometimes we us corn bio diesel for our tractor fuel too. Anyways, my wonderful life is all possible because of my initiative and knowledge fostered in a free market economy of California. I really have no need of the government or their services. We have a doctor and veterinarian that lease next door and across the road. That takes care of health care and our livestock. Our arrangements with businesses, including the power company is privately arranged. Now I started off living in a car when I was a teen. Hard work and applied knowledge in a free market can and does benefit the free world. People that don't have freedom or that don't exercise it, will never know why it's the best. Most just want to tax others success and look for handouts. Believing government is a necessity in everyday living. I helped build the highways and bridges around San Diego with my own 2 hands. That same money taxed to death by California government. I had to learn the market to break free of all that. Still I'm taxed for services I don't use or need to use. Once I've fully retired I'll be taking my money elsewhere away from government because I know it's not a necessity. I'll be off the grid like Governor Ventura. I don't expect anyone born in a socialist economy to get it or anyone from a communist country to ever understand. It's a blessing too few will ever know these days. Free market is awesome. Free trade is awesome.
     
  19. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 61 NA

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    Free market environment of California????

    ROFL,HAHAHAH!!!! Yea, but no.
    That has got to be the most Liberal, government regulated plot on planet earth,good ignorant sir. Gdanm, the freedoms you think you enjoy in that state, are a direct product of goverment...WTF.
     
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    Guess this is what happens when you drink your "fuel" as well, huh? Also, so you use 100% ethanol for your fuel or mix it with gas?

    Your contradictions are pretty damn amazing and it was a pretty good troll job.

    So we can recap, this person lives in a place where he is able to rent out some of his land to a Power Company and he is going to come here and try to preach to us about making his own fuel? And Ethanol, no less?!

    That's some pretty good trolling for this forum, though.
     
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