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Constructive debate about accessories

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by OldNewSchool, Sep 17, 2018.

  1. OldNewSchool

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    Yo guys, I wanted to know what people think about accessory enchanting. I am not here to rant or anything, but I am curious to know how the forum community feels about it. Only thing I want to point out is the huge discrepancy of potential silver retained between rngblessed and people who had the worst of luck blowing tons of them. Another thing I'd like to know is from people who experienced upgrading them with cronstones: do they downgrade often? Is it worth?
     
  2. elgen

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    They downgrade every time you fail which is often LOL and no most of the time it's not. Often the cron price is worth more then the downgraded piece so your better off just having a back up or buying another piece if you fail.
     
  3. OldNewSchool

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    Thank you for reply, I knew they had only30% chance of downgrade. I am using backups to upgrade my ogre, basilisk and crescent tri to tet with failstacks ranging from 78 to 100+, already did at least 7 tries considering all accs mentioned. Not even counting the countless duo/tri fails occurred to get there.
    It is easier to get a pen weapon than those accs, in fact I am penning all my wraps before even try again to tet my top accessories. And more probably I will just save Uber amounts of silver to try to preorder them.
    Some of my friends had similar experiences, some aren't even trying to make em tet. Can other people share their experiences and express if they think it's fine as it is or should need an overhaul of some sort for EU?
     
  4. Alicia Dominica

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    Well, given the nature of accessories enhancing, there isn't much constructive to say about it:

    Ultimately, it's just one huge silver-sink. Players with access to payouts are at a huge advantage for this because they can just keep pre-ordering accessories and smashing them together till success. Cron stones are inefficient because of the potential to downgrade, artisan memories won't directly help you and selling costumes won't generate competitive amounts of silver (compared to melting), so you cannot really "p2w" this.

    Add the "all or nothing" rng to it and you basically have everything that is bad about BDO combined in this particular case: Brainless no-skill gameplay, casino/rng, no-lifers getting payout-carried, while people actually investing money into this game taking the short end of the stick. One word: Terrible.
     
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  5. Andaro

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    I would be interested to read some input and feedback on potentially different mechanics for enchanting accessories
     
  6. fenzz

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    i can tell you from a guy that's been relatively lucky with his tet accessories. im at 3 out of 14 attempts. that's considered pretty lucky.
    it was all over a pretty long period of time. and i didnt really had much hope that it will work. it just what i do with the money i get. buy access off the market and blow them up. it didnt feel all too terrible as people picture it to be. just takes time and luck.

    i do know some poor sobs that are still sitting on like 1/18 or something but that's really extreme.

    pen is way harder if you dont p2w it. ive not succeeded a single pen yet.

    also ive never got a single payout and didnt do seamonster hunting. im also not a PVP god like @Alicia Dominica so i have to play this game to feel good about myself. otherwise i would have to go to other game's forums and tell them they all suck for playing the games i don't play so they will have to accept that im actually a skilled pvp player.

    such is life.
     
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  7. ambyentlight

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    Theres hidden account and char luck modifiers and also I have had like 20 cronned gold accessorys attemps and they seem to 100% downgrade on fail all the time.
     
  8. Revalenia

    Revalenia Lahn 62 EU

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    This is correct, yes.
     
  9. OldNewSchool

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    Yea I kind of had the impression that one of my chars is much more lucky than others, but i tought it was just rng play. mmm so, if that's the case mabe it's better to extract all my important fs and make the important tries only on that char. Is that correct?
    ty for useful infos btw
     
  10. Valestris

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    One word, expensive.
     
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  11. jangalangz

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    Feeling pretty good about it right now. Made TET Ogre this weekend :D
     
  12. Spartakatz

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    PEN (and even TET so some extent), expensive accessories, T9, ultimate upgrades in 1st year of the game.... there are quite a few extremely low RNG mechanics in the game without a real safe alternative, that create some pretty big "unfair" situations, if you start to compare with other players.
    Not a fan of it, but I somehow doubt they will change it, seems to be a pretty big thing in their game design.
     
  13. farsay

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    3 duo crescent rings > try and get tri > poof 1.5 billion gone. It’s fine lol
     
  14. RengerEl

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    TET ogre failed? Here's one FS. That part should be changed. I'd make them give twice the stacks that weapons/armor do, tiered by price of accessory.
     
  15. Valestris

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    Yeah that honestly needs to be fixed lol it's so stupid!
     
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  16. Mana_Mafia

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    I keep hearing that they do not downgrade every time if you use crons. You're saying they do, 100% of the time?
     
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    I keep waiting for an enhancement bonus event similar to the breeding event going on right now.
     
  18. LoganSilver

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    When I spent ~25 billion silver over 4-5 months in just base accessories and failed to get a tet accessory, I felt bad. I saw people 1 click tet accessories, yet, I couldn’t make a tet ogre or crescent.

    Since then, I saved up more silver. I managed to snipe a tet basi belt and finally cron stone my dande to pen (3 tet dande’s sold at tri on fail and 9 more cron stone clicks with dande succeeding at click 12).


    At times I consider just preordering accessories. But then I look at all the tet accessory stacks and pen stacks I have, and I can’t help but smash stuff.


    Enhancing in this game sucks. If the game was new, I’d be all for a system with fixed costs. Make a tet accessory cost X silver or Y materials to make. But I don’t think such changes make sense for BDO at the stage it currently is.
     
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  19. elgen

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    Mine always have a higher tiers and the tool tip when you put the cron stones in openly says will downgrade if it fails.
     
  20. 2Cents

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    I would apply a special rule for Ogre tier items. Depending on the market you could often obtain plenty of basilisk, crescent, etc. However, Ogre was it's own category where having the money wasn't the issue. In those cases using cron stones may have additional value and be worth using.
     

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