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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by WillJoestar, Nov 7, 2019.
The total 0 of in gameplay cinema literally explains the gameplay.
I got the same impression that the entire game is like a Witcher.
They didn't showed any MMO elements, just RPG.
Looks like a heavy PvE game, since all the Villains are NPC's. Didn't show or said anything about PvP.
Btw, looks exactly like Black Desert, apart from the snow.
So back to BDO, this is definitely not a BDO killer.
[Edit] My only major criticism so far is that the face animations really need work. Beyond that, I'm super excited. [/Edit]
--------------It's not actually a prequel exactly, it's more inspired by BDO's past but they took a different direction with the world — kind of like how the FF games borrow from eachothers' universes/design elements:
Someone in another discord also pointed out that in BDO there is absolutely no cold north or anything like that. There isn't a big group of Viking-inspired people in the north somewhere, the north in BDO is more Mediterranean/Tropical.
This is just one part of the game. They've said there will be a singleplayer campaign along with the traditional MMORPG aspect, and they just showed off the campaign part. We'll have to keep our eyes out for the MMORPG portions, but either way they did warn us in previous press releases this would play much differently than a game like BDO or other MMORPGs.
Why would you think that? They clearly said it's a "next gen MMO" with "trading and PvP".
This garbage here also implies that BDO is some cool story-filled adventure game following the story of "Illezra" and not some Pay2Win online casino where you spend thousands of hours with grinding. The Crimson Desert presentation was just your usual teaser trailer, with no ties to actual gameplay.
Btw, anyone else noticed NPC's lip-syncing English words in the trailer? And i haven't noticed any Asian characters in the game.
They did mentioned Survival a few times. So a Survival MMORPG?
That was all from the single-player campaign, not just cinematic mumbo-jumbo:
Blade and Soul. The best campaign I've seen in MMOs with the best story (could just be me and my love for vengeful into heartwarming stories).
Even the faction PvP element is exactly like BnS lol.
I think it's still the same game world just taking place at a different time period in a different continent.
Btw, BDO's compass is flipped since its initial conception, that's why the sun rises from the west and sets in the east, it's also why the snow region is in the "south" and the "oriental nations" in the east has Port Ratt actually in the northwest (in reality southeast).
It isn't. The game always had the same orientation as it has right now. There is just one map that was flipped and it wasn't the first one.
I was more talking about this map
But when I said "since its initial conception" I indeed meant that "it has always been the way it is now." It's just that the map is indeed flipped since people mentioned quests mentioning the Asian characters are "oriental" and originate from "the far east," which complies with the location of Magoria and the location of sunrise and sets. It may be a developers choice but the snow region being "north" in the lore doesn't not make sense.
Along with what you said @levinano about BnS— we can also look at it kind of like the Red Dead Redemption 2/Red Dead: Online's situation. Single-player campaign and an online mode within the same 'game'. (Only the majority of the development emphasis this time would assumedly be on the MMORPG mode, I imagine.)
I've been really big on BDO's lore for a while and there are a few things that stick out to me:
Some of the monsters look very similar to the ones we have now, but only came to exist within the past few years — like that Bheg-looking thing. If it was very recent then we probably would've seen some evidence of Calpheon/Valencia — and a 3 vs. 3 faction thing wouldn't make all that much sense.
There were a lot of monsters we've never seen before.
Some guy was holding a gun at one point, so if it was in BDO's universe it can't be far back in BDO's past since guns are fairly new inventions.
There was absolutely no magic whatsoever, which was super weird for anything BDO.
Some of the areas looked very familiar, but in ways that don't make sense with how they're set up currently. We'd see buildings that look like Heidel's, but set up in a completely different way. Same with the Trent-looking area which looks much larger.
This would make sense with the game being mentioned to 'pay homage' to BDO, it's probably very inspired by BDO's universe in the same way that FF games are very inspired by past FF games despite taking place on different worlds.
The weirdest part is that just too much of this thematically lines up with what we have on our continent in BDO for it to be new cultures on a new continent. The races (aside from Elves, but we see orcs, goblins, etc.) pop up, we see similar architecture to Heidel, the Bloody Monastery, Trent, and so-on. Some of them look very similar to BDO places, so it couldn't just be a new continent.
But at the same time, it can't be our continent because of all of the weird differences, like the whole 'up north' thing.
BDO's north is actually north. The whole "East" thing has to do with the fact that in the lore nobody can really cross Margoria without dying to the storms/monsters/etc. so they have to travel all the way around the world and keep going East to get there, which is probably why you find Valencians of all people in Port Ratt.
We have the Crimson Desert already in-game, so if it was a new continent it probably wouldn't be named after something on our continent.
Zero elements of black spirits and stuff like that.
I think it's confusing people because PA's borrowing a lot from BDO's universe—but on close inspection, it doesn't really line up with BDO's universe either.
So PA learned from "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" "Developers" and made linear/ beatable game ? Well i guess its what audience want nowadays, pay 60$, play 10-20h - perfect game.
They put cutscenes more consistently in the main story quests this time. That's the big reveal...
lmao people getting tricked into thinking this is a single player game
"Crimson Desert, which is expected to become the next flagship MMORPG for Pearl Abyss. "
" Crimson Desert is an open-world MMORPG game set against the medieval times. "
"We are also planning major updates for the upcoming winter season, including the Great Desert, which is a large-scale PVP content and also Black Desert PC, popular class, which we expect will help us achieve a rebound in both user indicators and revenue at the same time."
"So with the exception of Shadow Arena, the 3 new games [PLAN 8, DokeV, Crimson Desert] are all built on our next-generation engine or with the goal to launch for both console and the PC platform simultaneously. And we are considering expansion onto mobile cross platforms, excuse me, and also game streaming going forward. "
Their idea of rejuvenating BDO is the implementation of succession. That's literally as far as they can think of developing this game at this point. Imaging you have to make a presentation of the worth of your product and how much effort you did and will put it to ensure investement safeties and that's all they can come up with.
And the only thing they have to show for are the spikes in numbers when they release something like Shai and even mention the following drop off. Actual 5heads
"In the third quarter, our competitors started marking their blockbuster MMORPG games slated for release in the fourth quarter, which resulted in many users delaying payment on existing games, which we believe may have partially impacted us as well.
So in the fourth quarter, we do expect intense competition due to the initial launch effects of new roll outs. However, we have been preemptively engaged in various market activities to climb back up the ranks by bringing back return users."
That about sums up their development and content cycles. They don't release new content because they want to develop the game, they make little shitty nuggets to include in their weekly patchnotes to pretend they have something new every week and hope players log back in.
I specifically remember reading about the map during development how they'd flipped it several times and that is in fact true, that essentially the in-game map is upside down.
Yeah it's definitely an MMORPG, but it's seemingly got a single-player campaign too:
Love how you have to puff up your opinion by attributing to 100,000 imaginary people.
Dont think ive seen it being posted
But the trailer is out