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Devs clearly care nothing for the game; hystria hackers prove it

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by WastedJoker, May 27, 2018.

  1. freshniubbo

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    and dont forget the marketplace bots... those bots are destroying the game!
     
  2. Malketaz

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    How long til the CM's delete this thread and the hackers are left to continue doing their shenanigans. You know its bad when the same hacker has been allowed to hack long enough to get insane gear. Normally you'd expect them to get banned before getting to that point.

    I'd even wager a cm is involved and taking part. I'm not even sure if PA is responsible for this laziness, we should message them and inform them that Kakao is failing to do their job. Maybe a new publisher is needed.
     
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  3. Solsi

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    This is even worse than the old digging exploit, in terms of racking up insane amount of wealth.

    It's so disturbing and demotivating, how they're not even commenting on something this alarming and game-breaking.

    It could ofc be because they're looking for a blanket banwave fix(hopefully). But who wants to wait an eternity for that, considering it took them 1.5+ year to ban a few hundred fish botters lol?

    Or worse case, they're to busy with combat changes, Xbox preparation etc to give a **** about hackers.
     
  4. Revalenia

    Revalenia Lahn 62 EU

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    the problem, with detecting is player inconsistentcy.
     
  5. Malketaz

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    It's really not that hard to sit in hysteria as a cm, watch the hacker do his thing, record it, and permanently ban the account. They do this in WoW. And its already been established that they have done this to fish botters. Watch them. TP them. Observe their behavior, then ban them. Why they avoid doing this to a much easier to locate hacking phenomenon is a mystery. As well as why they have been shutting down pretty much all conversation on the topic itself.
     
  6. Revalenia

    Revalenia Lahn 62 EU

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    Privacy rights in the way.
     
  7. Malketaz

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    What? Privacy of the hacker being in a ghillie? What do you mean? Privacy rights in no way prevent a cm from sitting invisible, in game, watching someone hack, and then banning them.
     
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  8. Revalenia

    Revalenia Lahn 62 EU

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    well then, how about you go to a law firm then and ask a local laywer about video recordings and how they are allowed or not allowed to be used as proof within the European Union.
     
  9. Malketaz

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    Then don't record. Just ban them. It's that simple.
     
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  10. Escapism

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    lol youre speaking of an online game here, you dont own anything there, you have NO privacy, you are using their software in their ingame world hosted on their servers, they can monitor and log everything you do there (and almost all devs/publishers do). Just like many games can save entire match replays without having to ask for your permission.
     
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  11. Revalenia

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    Suggestion: Clickwrap Agreements.
     
  12. WastedJoker

    WastedJoker Striker 61 EU

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    That has nothing to do with any privacy argument.

    Identifying a player in a game using ingame methods is not a breach of privacy.

    Posting their ingame name on a forum is not a breach of privacy. It is likely a breach of the forum rules though.

    Linking their online identity to a real-life identity is where it gets shady.
     
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  13. Revalenia

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    What Is Privacy Protection? - Laws & Rights
     
  14. LightningFFXIII-4

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    Pretty sure they care, all 12 of them lol. I mean if ppl just record it and send it to support then maybe the GM's will know instead of making a twitch video about It and expecting GM's to watch that twitch.

    Almost everyone here uses Nvidia Experience and you can quickly record anything ingame with a press of a button and upload that in youtube. Then send that youtube link in your report to the GMs...
     
  15. Mafesio

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    You waived those rights when you entered the game. If you walk into a bank, whether you want it or not, your being recorded, and if you rob the bank, the video will be used as evidence. If you don't want to be recorded in the bank, then you don't enter it, same with BDO, if you don't want to be recorded or tracked, don't enter BDO, the laws governing this situation are pretty universal through out the world.
     
  16. JillValentime

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    "Hello darkness, my old friend
    I've come to talk with you again

    .....
    Still remains
    Within the sound of silence"


    I love how there is no reaction from Kakao... just silence.
    Silence is their only reaction....


    Congrats devs ! You are the first video game compagny that i saw who want to keep cheater !
    If i can vote tomorrow i'll deserve you the "worst video game compagny award" => yes yes; even EA ban his cheater.
     
  17. Plunge

    Plunge Cadern_180831091355734 Valkyrie 57 NA

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    Please stop, you evidently know nothing about law. You do not own anything in BDO; your characters, your items, your horses, your alts are all property of Kakao and you are merely leasing them. When you paid for the game you paid for ACCESS, not for ownership. The only privacy laws that apply in BDO are the ones that protect the personal information that is stored here, which encompass your full name, address and billing information.
     
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    You are being dilussional. There is no privacy issues here catching cheaters. It's like not arresting a man in his house for commiting a crime because lol you invaded his privacy.

     
  19. Escapism

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    You dont have any privacy in an online game, so there is nothing that could be protected by any laws.

    Do you think just because youre in your house in a online game with a few of your friends having some discussion, anything of that would be "private":
    • its not "your" house, the house belongs to the devs/publishers, you just have the right to use it
    • its not your account either, the account belongs to the devs/publishers, you just have the (exclusive) right to log in and play with that account
    • its not even "your" character, that also belongs to the devs as well, you just own the right to use it, same goes for anything you earned or obtained ingame
    • any chat conversation you have inside "your" house with some friends is not a private conversation either, it happens in a public chat channel which also follows restrictions and possible sanctions (f.e. for profanity) and all chats usually are getting logged. Even "private" (not really lol) whisper conversation get logged and can be checked by the staff, which is necessary in case of f.e. severe threaths or profanity which can lead to bans.
    If you want legally protected privacy, log off and unplug your pc, and make sure there are no cameras inside your house.


    edit: plunge was faster :(
     
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  20. Revalenia

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    I recommen reading looking around when you next enter a store and to look at the screen. Now, how about you go and actually read a good book about privacy laws and in which, how, why and when you are allowed to, rather than to throw out silly claims while pretending to know so much more all while also violating the terms of use that you claim to know so much about.
     

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