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Do we need another tool to counter grabs?

Discussion in 'Witch/Wizard' started by Meowingtons, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    even if that single long cd iframe could anicancel all of witchzard skills, it would still be ez for classes with mobility and multiple grabs.
     
  2. Goldfisch

    Goldfisch Wizard 62 EU

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    srsly linking some dogshit vid of noob warrio with no AP and use it to show ppl witchards are fine...lmao ....zerkers, strikers, mystics, warriors, lahn ...every class with high mobility and grab shits on us cause we run out of options at some point....1 show meta doesnt make it better.... all we ask for is another mobility skill oder protected one to avoid getting desync grabs...
     
  3. v.klishev

    v.klishev Striker 62 EU

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    One of those things just doesn't belo~ong here :D
     
  4. Filia

    Filia Ranger 62

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    I feel like this post is meant to ventilate frustration in the delta aspects of witches and wizards, so I'll rest my case here.
    I hope my insight has helped you Meowington.
     
  5. Meowingtons

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    Well tbh you didn't get the point of this thread. it's a discussion about possibilities. And the title says: "do we Need another tool?"
    So im neither asking for changes nor crying about it. Your contribution to this thread was posting an outdated pointless video and saying it's all fine without giving any valid arguments.
     
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  6. Maginha

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    And the witch shouldve been punished a lot more by the war for pve iframes and even some jumps imao
     
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  7. Ubbles

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    Witch and Wiz are in a very healthy spot. While I-frames may be the best counter to grab focused classes Witch and Wiz have amazing Resists with their Q buff and even more so witch with her Q block in awaken towards all types of CC to the point that if they build for resists they will start negating the affects of ignore resists from other enemy players even when pvp caps at 60%.
     
  8. Meowingtons

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    So we have to rely on rng to not get grabbed? :/
     
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  9. Maginha

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    Give earth response a pvp iframe, take away the cc from it, even make cd higher, we gucci? :D
     
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  10. Ubbles

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    pretty much sadly, a few other classes have this issue but also have greater mobility.
     
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  11. Fearless V

    Fearless V Ranger 61 NA

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    Witchard just needs Teleport CD halved. Than it's somewhat ok again against grab classes. No?
     
  12. easay9

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    Its ridiculous they want buffs.............

    your already a class that scales well with evasion

    your AOEs whipe groups of people if your not dealt with immediately

    given that you can just teleport in from a distance and instant cast on top of people which might I add is garenteed damage with no counterplay....

    If you position poorly and get grabbed as a witch/wizard its your own fault.

    And 1v1 oh well you were never designed for it get over it.
     
  13. easay9

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    nope class is fine position better
     
  14. Jaeger

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    The only counter tool would be a cc breaker for every class with a cd of 2-3min
     
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    Did you ever make a trial wiz? Seems we are not playing the same game. Btw not being good at 1vs1 doesnt mean having that big disadvantage
     
  16. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    providing every class gets it, it would be downright a nerf to us. as we have way harder time catching others than other way around.
     
  17. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    if they would allow teleport to animation cancel awakening in upper scenario... it would be decent.
     
  18. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    it aint accessible from awakening tho. and its wizards only float.

    imho they simply need to put iframe on pve roll on a certain cooldown (4-5 sec?) and letsay only on backwards or sideways roll. this should also have the ability to animation cancel awakening.
     
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  19. Noixi

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    QFT. And we need this DESPERATELY in the game.

    It needs to remove all CC and make one immune to CC for 5 seconds.

    Personally, I want Ice Block on top.
     
  20. Bob2009

    Bob2009 Wizard 61 EU

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    My experience in 1v1 against grab classes during a trial in siege guild. They face roll through my awak, running straight towards me and i cant do anything about it and just grab me. 1 sec later, i'm dead. Funny how all the classes that are eager to 1v1 either have op grab or op iframe like sorc/ninja/kuno.
     
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