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Enchantment fraud or bug or hack?

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by crystaldreamer, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Myntiix

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    Maybe try enhancing next time.
     
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  2. yukishiro1

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    Why would anyone try enhancing? It is by far the worst part of the game, the part most designed to send you to the cash shop from sheer frustration.

    Let some other poor schmucks do that bit of the game, then just buy whatever you want from the mp. The game becomes a lot more enjoyable once you cut off the worst part of the RNG casino.
     
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  3. zeezero

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    This is a lol post. There is no guarantee when you enhance. There is no affect of your previous attempt on your first other than to increase the fail stack. If you see a 50% chance than you have a 50% chance to fail.

    I would claim there was fraud going on if people didn't ever experience these long fail periods. True RNG happens in spurts like this.
     
  4. Fearless V

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    Hacking, botting, and RMT should be banned. But they should either take away the gains from exploits the they close. Or allow everyone to use it. That's all I'm saying.
     
  5. AZzalor

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    I just flipped a coin and it took me 9 tries before a single heads happend even tho it's a 50% chance.

    I don't think anyone here will say that this is perfectly normal, it is without doubt quite unlucky but it has nothing to do with a fraud or bug.
     
  6. Waifu_Hunter

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    yeah i dont really uh, trust the information that you're given. You just have to summon that smooth brain energy and click with the morbid curiosity of how far in debt you can go opposed to just buying the damn thing. I failed a 25% chance to succeed on my griffon helmet 27 times in a row. I really don't trust the information I'm given and think there's some other things at play, but i've also had a lot of surprising successes when i'm enchanting like an idiot so it kinda balances out.
     
  7. crosspath

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    It is 48 times out of 50

    You must be really delusional to think that enhancement is not totally rigged.

    Try to do it with a coin, and spend years getting 48 out of 50 heads. Cause reality is not BDO. In BDO this result... Every day.
     
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  8. CrestFirill

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    Nonsense, when you're at the point that you pretty much need to get pens to progress (which fyi is full tet armors and accessories (yellow), you dont need a pen dande to progress from tri accessories..) then you can easily grind or lifeskill for nearly a billion silver a day if you use your brain a bit, dont even need to break your hands grinding 10 hours a day for it.

    If you are going for pen by enhancing thats 100% on you, buying is extremely viable, you just dont have the patience to save up and not gamble.
     
  9. zanael

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    It's ALMOST impossible with real 50% rate to fail 24 time on 26 attempts, if someone don't believe go and check any RNG on google and try to get only 2x 1 with 26 spins a batch. Full PEN in one day is more probable I guess than such a score on real 50 till 50+ % ratio on success. There is some hidden mechanic coz those ludicrous situation happens quite often in this game.
     
  10. Blitzball

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    I stopped gambling because i have no luck in this game.

    You can’t earn 1 bil per day without LS, even if you are grinding 10 hours. Remember that lootscrolls are limited :D

    Gathering is limited by energy. Bartering is limited by refreshs / parley.

    It’s impossible to have one bil per day with all these limitations.
     
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  11. Kikux

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    [​IMG]
     
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  12. CrestFirill

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    Yeah no, you are smoking good stuff if you think its impossible to make one bil a day.
    You don't need 10 hours of non lootscroll, you dont need to barter the entire day, you dont need to gather all day. Getting silver atm is ridiculously easy, if you're struggling then thats on you, not the game.
     
  13. Blitzball

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    Well , tell me how you're doing ? Oh wait , i guess it's a secret ? XO
     
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  14. CrestFirill

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    No lol not at all
    Cooking/Alchemy deliveries for up to 200mil a day without too much commitment if you do it right, I wont explain that in detail though its too much work.
    Grinding an hour or 2 at a good spot, so not at nagas, Im still talking about the initial setting I described, that should net you like 200-300 mil.
    Can go gather than for an hour, which is easily doable, for another ~100-150mil.
    Now you're at 200+300+150 = 650mil with maybe 3 hours time spent.
    Go do a couple of guildquests, be a good guild member, usual spots like polly's, bloodwolfs, crescents + guildwage should net you like 100-200mil depending on how many you do and how big a part you play, maybe an hour or so spent on that if you're not a gearlet.
    850mil gained 5 hours spent, only 2 real hours grinded because trash spots are extremely afk effort.
    Fish overnight for like 50mil so thats 900mil right there.
    If you gather first thing in the day you can gather again near the evening to put you over 1bil, you can grind a bit more for the 1bil mark, or just casually barter on an alt to make the rest less inconvenient.

    Tell me again how you need 10 hours of hardcore lootscrolls to get less than 1bil a day, because you're doing something so gosh darn wrong...
     
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    Imperial Alchemy can earn 200mil per day if you're Guru, requiring grinding, a lot of grinding just to get to the level where you can make the Master Golden Hand Box for 1,329,000 per box (50 bottles per box times 200 boxes, 10,000 bottles per day). Maybe you're making Master Death at 930,000 per box (35 bottles per box times 216 boxes to earn the same 200mil, thats 7,560 bottles per day). And you say that's without much commitment? How many hours a day are you on? Even a Professional Alchemy tool only has 1k uses and a chance to make extra, so your going through 7-10 alchemy tools per day, so you can't completely afk this. So that's what, about 2hrs of semi afk alchemy per day?

    Grinding for an hour or 2 at a good spot ie. Stars End, Hystria, Tooth Fairy, Gyfin, Sycraia, WHICH ALL REQUIRE TO BE AT SOFT CAP, ALREADY HAVE FULL TRI+ BOSS GEAR, AND ALREADY HAVE 99% OF WHAT YOU'RE GRINDING FOR JUST TO EXIST THERE. Not something someone can do to make money to earn the right to BUY end game gear off the market.

    150mil from gathering? You have to be at least Master level to get enough hard, sharp, and T9 mats to do that. Once again requiring a ton of commitment just to get to that point, seeing as you can go through 250-300 energy in about 30min from gathering, but you're doing it for an hour. Gaining that much energy will take a lot of questing and grinding just to have the energy to do that, making this route take even longer to achieve.

    You're entire argument is assuming everyone is at soft cap, with full boss gear, at least 500 energy with master + to have the 30% chance to not use energy while gathering, and set max level life skills to make money to make it worth trying to get to end game?

    And you're probably one of those people who wonder why 80% of player quit the game after reaching level 56-58 once they figure out how damn near impossible it is to get anywhere near end game. Do you have no problem with new player's trying to earn boss gear right along side full PEN end game cap players? You know because people like to earn their way through games, it give a sense of accomplishment to them, but it's literally impossible to earn your way through this game. This game is pay to win, weather you grind to pay for stuff on the market because you can't earn anything for yourself, or you spend to win with pearls. Either way anything you ever want in this game is locked behind the most powerful people in the game and you can't earn anything, you have to buy everything, and I mean literally everything that's worth having.

    But hey you're one of the people at the top making all the money so you'd never have a problem with everyone pulling at your coat strings for the scraps you throw them.

    EDIT: People will happily play games like WOW and do 8hr dungeons for one or two pieces of equipment, why? Because they earned that equipment out right by playing the game, not being forced to beg and buy it from another player. Let that sink in. People will happily grind for one item in other games much longer than they would have to grind to buy something off the market in this game. Earning gear, earning accessories, earning your way through the game is what makes people want to play it. Not getting one shot by people at soft cap while you're trying to earn your own gear. Not grinding World Bosses for a year or more to earn 100 latent aura's so you can earn your own boss gear while competing with max gear players. This game absolutely needs it's older player because they're the only ones who can play this game and feel like they've earned something and everyone leaves because they will never have that right.
     
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  16. Boink

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    Beautifully explained.

    Well it's tax return season lots of gains this following month. No need for credit card :)

    But yeah some players have different financial responsibility no point on trying to catch up. Just enjoy your OWN progression or be smart with it.
     
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    If you take everything you've said here and cut the numbers basically in half I will agree with your statement.
     
  18. CrestFirill

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    Man you are really upset for someone that only reads part of my post. I already made a point and I referred to that point with the reply you're losing your mind about. This is about the viability of buying your end game stuff like pens, you wont be going for pen with your tri bossgear, this is my process at full tet everything, including accessories, my only upgrade is pens, and this is how I go there.

    Cooking/Alchemy takes some prep, but I do it casually over X amount of time and then cook the entire batch over 3-5 days, so I have meals for turnins for about 2-3 months, then over that time I gather casually for the next batch. Thats called preparation.

    Like I said, my assumption was clearly stated, you just ignored it like a madman because you refuse to believe this method is any way viable at low gear, which is something I never claimed to begin with.

    Ill ignore the rest of your post because clearly you're just upset, feel free to dm me if you want more details on what I do.

    Your statements about what gear / good spots / level / energy etc you need are nonsense as well just letting you know.
     
  19. CrestFirill

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    Eh, honestly some parts are rng based anyway, like you can get unlucky grinding and gathering, but on average thats values I see commonly between me and my peers, but I can see the argument to be made on that.

    Still, 500mil a day would not be a small amount for anyone, unless you do actually grind those 10 hours lootscroll sycraia that people commonly refer to as "the only way to make a bil a day"
     
  20. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    even if its only 500m a day (which is quite doable) thats bit over a month for a pen
    even if i only did imperial cooking (master) it wouldnt take me 1 year - i still make 100m a day from that so 200 days and it really doesnt get more casual than imperial cooking

    now combine that 100m with a bit of grinding, events etc ur easily looking at 200-300m a day
    with 250m it would take slightly less then 3 months for a pen item - and we are still looking at "casual" gameplay

    ye i really dont see any issue with getting it if ur motivated enough to work for it and can save up 20b and not blow it on smth else

    enhancing it yourself obviously is another topic, but buying is easier as ever and really achievable for anyone
     

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