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End game grind feels depressing! How can we make it better?

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Astro945, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. Astro945

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    When I get home from work and I play BDO, I've gotten to the point where I feel like I'm essentially going back to work so that maybe one day I can once again get some enjoyment out of this game.

    I wish end game PvE didn't feel so drawn out, its really lacking some excitement. And no being asked to "duel for spot" is not exciting. You think that part would at least bring some fun right? But after a while its rather annoying, especially when this game is suggesting you spend real money on TIMED loot scrolls that are very short lived which make grinding feel not even exciting, just tolerable.

    I do like grindy games, I've played MMORPGs all my life, but when it comes to making gains from grinding I'd really prefer not to play "run in a circle simulator 2020" for an eternity.
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    ***Lets talk about how to improve the game***

    LOOT SCROLLS: I'm really surprised loot scrolls aren't functioning more like Agris Fever yet, it would make dueling for spot soo much more tolerable.

    PVP: Why aren't there more rewards for participating in PvP? Imagine if it actually felt worth your time to duel people for rotations because you actually got more out of it than a rotation you can now freely grind in for 15mins before being asked to duel again.

    SHADOW ARENA: Honestly when shadow arena was part of BDO that was some of the most fun I had making gains in BDO... I would love it if I could constantly PvP for good amounts of currency once again. Shadow Arena lost all the value I saw in it when you decided to make it a stand alone game.

    Anything you guys personally want in this game that you feel is missing?
     
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  2. GamePois0n

    GamePois0n PootyPoot Ranger 61 NA

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    the game is supposed to be relaxing when u grind
     
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  3. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Who told you that lie?
    It has open world Pk FOR nervous exploration.
    They just screwed it up with all the P2W. So people resort to grinding as the "work around" to the progression paywall.
     
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  4. GamePois0n

    GamePois0n PootyPoot Ranger 61 NA

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    then quit the game if you don't like it.

    it's the only game that I can watch anime while I grind
     
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  5. Rubyvulpa

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    Just adding a ton of silver to PvP content will not make the game fun.
    Shadow Arena had to be pulled offline because of the hackers, member?
    If competitive content is too rewarding, people will ruin it with their greed.

    Also, it seems most peoples' boredom with the endgame comes from it being very repetitive.
    Switch it up, and do something you enjoy that is perhaps a tad less rewarding, but gets you out of the zombie grind modus.
    No matter what they add, if you keep spamming that content because it's optimal, in the end you'll get exhausted with it.
     
  6. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Im a gambling addict. This place is saving me money.
    I only lose progression, irl id be losing money at a casino.
    I log on once or twice a week, barter a billion silver real quick, buy 3 costumes from the central market, PEN attempt, get my gambling fix, an im out.

    Rinse an repeat.
     
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  7. LightningFFXIII-4

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    Your playing a Freemium grade Korean MMO, what did you expect lol.

    My best advice: go play FFXIV instead. It's the only MMO i know that allows you to do meaningful progression at the smallest playtime.

    If you like PVP, try GW2 instead. Or just don't play MMO's in general lol. Overwatch is a nice alternative.

    In BDO, your literally competing with ppl who do nothing but play BDO all day 24/7 12 months a year..

    Idk what your job is but if you value your career/school, this is the last game you should be wasting your time on.
     
  8. Allan1985

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    dont pay much attention to the toxic community members, some of them are so sensitive that they have become incapable of objective criticism, what you describe is one of the biggest problems (if not the bigger) this game has, once you reach a point in wich your progression is very slow that progression itself stops functioning as the moving factor that keeps the grinding bearable, that is the point in wich the game expects you to swipe your credit card to regain that rewarding feeling of getting stronger at a decent rate, unfortunately there is no solution to this, in a game with so many artificially created inconveniences and a very amateurish story line the only reason to play it is the good grapichs and combat, once that becomes dull by repetition the only option is to move on to another game.
     
  9. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    cant even grind properly without paying in this game.

    and no, freebie scrolls arent enough if you actually grind.
     
  10. Findubar

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    The game will never improve. It's a cash shop first and some game after.
     
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  12. Drakkaelus

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    In BDO, boredom sets in within minutes if I'm not doing something else like listening to creepypastas or watching something else on a second screen. On the other hand, I can grind all day in a game like Path of Exile, The Division or Monster Hunter. Probably because grinding in those games doesn't involve running around in a small circle for hours on end.

    I've never seen a game squander a fun combat system quite like BDO. Unfortunately, the things this game needs to make PvE interesting will be the things this game will never get. The only solution for me is to play this game in short bursts. A few weeks every few months when the mood strikes. I don't make much in the way of progress anymore, but I can only stomach running in circles for hours on end for so long.
     
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  13. Allan1985

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    indeed, i burned all my stock of scrolls in 5 days of seasson, and it wasnt small.
     
  14. Allan1985

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    i agree, i can play division 2 or even league of legends for 10 hrs/day concentrating on the game and without getting bored but 2 hrs of bdo grind gets me yawning and wondering what i am doing with my life.
     
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  15. Vortexii

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    I'm not sure why you decided to call the community toxic in this context while just about everyone agrees and points out the same reasons. This is Pay2Win destroying the value and direction of the game. Progression was not focused on playing the game, but PAYING your way through ridiculous enchantment rates.

    This is so vial and disgusting the I refused to participate and it's anti consumer. How DARE PEARL ABYSS ask customers to waste 1,000 of hours grinding to be cheated by a cash shop gambling system.

    And thus, proper progression mechanics where never really introduced into the game. Your character level is essentially worthless now. Everyone is simply 60+ and there is almost no value in it. There are no additional passives to slowly earn, no mini levels, or reasonable leveling. No systems going beyond like AA points or otherwise.

    As people stated, it's NOT designed for enjoyment or play ability. It's a shallow empty cash shop gambling system. You even state a lot of that yourself.

    Sadly, there probably isn't a fix either. As long as people support this business model they will continue to produce Mobile Shitters like BDO :)
     
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    Its my preference to take the side of the little guy over the big guys.

    With that in mind - It would be easy to bypass a lot of the grind if you only would apply for new credit, and conform into a credit card warrior. Head on over to the Pearl Shop and buy uniforms on the Pearl Shop and sell them on the Market! Now you will be able to participate in so many more things like node wars ! (Thats what they want you to think)

    When it comes to committing to grinding do your research use sites like Somethinglovely.net to find where the best drops are for your purposes - if thats your goal, schedule times for world bosses, break up your grinding with other activities.

    Also listen to music or like me, listen to Audible and improve yourself while you grind. (Its amazing what listening to Queen can do for depression)

    Try other activities to get your silver ! Oh, say like horse breeding ???
     
  17. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    give me bad guy to hate and ill enjoy cracking his skull over and over again! :D we need more bad guys and more evil here!!!
     
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  20. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    yea but my post isnt a joke.
     

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