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Enhancement system is trash

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Extrabone, Jun 16, 2018.

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  1. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Actually...that is called gamblers fallacy..assuming your chances are greater with every try when in fact they are the same as when you first tried with every attempt...and that fallacy is the BS that you enjoy.

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    What is the 'Gambler's Fallacy/Monte Carlo Fallacy'

    Also known as the Monte Carlo Fallacy, the Gambler's Fallacy occurs when an individual erroneously believes that a certain random event is less likely or more likely, given a previous event or a series of events. This line of thinking is incorrect because past events do not change the probability that certain events will occur in the future.
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    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gamblersfallacy.asp

    All most of us ask is the the % to fail/succeed be presented based on FS..
    if it is .00012 at max fs, so be it.

    If that causes people to leave...perhaps it is time for PA to adjust their profit formula.

    Edit: and this is why side betting exist as well, betting on a persons chance to fail/succeed based on previous results.

    Edit2: Also your fs chart is way way off, and outdated.
     
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  2. Wollbert

    Wollbert Witch 61 EU

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    less than 0 is -0,1% so that means with a brain my chance of survival is 99,9%
     
  3. SKYMARK

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    Oof.mp3
     
  4. 6footgeeks

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    4/10000 or 4/100000 last time i checked
     
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  5. Catastigma

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    Gambler fallacy is a think only in a fix points of view. the gambler fallacy is false. the opposite bias is the Bias of Variance. but still false too but Quanticly correct.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_of_an_estimator

    The way to correctly thinking is Error²=Bias²+variance


    Roll a dice of 6, 1 million times. it is absolutely a useless data that I fall 1 million times out of 6. when rule is that i win when i hit the 5 face of dice

    If I fall 1 million times out of 6. it means that the dice is loaded. and other people get the same result where the rule to win is suposer to be 2/6(33% exemple) we can know that the rule is false.

    My chance is supose to be 25% we know the Rule. we know that the rule is truth,
    for get my sucess i have to drop to a number 1-25/100.

    you have to make a perfect slope between the Bias and the variance. and it is possible because we know the rule. you are sure to sucess. you just dont know if you will be bad lucky or not with the variance.

    its a base of the critical thinking and deep learning/algorithme optimisation.
    its useless to thinking in another way that the probability of the probability. cause is the only way to understand the game.
    Only the revelant data count. is what why Casino dont allow the card counting. you can in long run calculate your profitability. same **** on the speculative market.
     
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  6. WastedJoker

    WastedJoker Striker 61 EU

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    Just got my first ever TRI Crescent Ring - 167, 35, 50fs respectively. I could have bought a TET with what it cost me over the months -.-
     
  7. Asato

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    RNG is a number randomly generated which would make your enhancement a success past a threshold. And yes it's the p variable and even if you do binomial distribution, you get 25% at each attempt. You won't get magically 99% on your next attempt. It just tells you your overall probability given X attemps (X being the first success after k failures).
    So yes you can be extremely unlucky (or lucky) to never get it after X attempts !

    So your way of controlling RNG is doing enough attempts?!... woah, who would have guessed ! XD and 20 attemps for 25% is way too much, imo. Wow aubrey plaza.gif

    Can you give us the number of attempts to get for sure, like 100%, like guarenteed PEN? :)
     
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  8. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    ...Nothing you wrote has anything to do with your previous post, the topic, or this game.

    Nothing.

    In the other post you claimed all you needed to do was earn 3.2 billion silver to get to 20 tri fail attempts with a crescent ring with x FS.

    It has been proven time and again, through slot machines that will literally eat $1000's of dollars out of your wallet, on a .25cent machine and never hit, to countless people whom have quit due to their 50th failed tri/tet attempt..never to even get to a pen attempt that everything you said is false.

    First of all the system is built around exponential price increase, and deceit, as it does not even tell you the % chance to succeed no matter how many FS you have.

    The FS chart is outdated, and most people just want to know the % based on FS.

    If it is crazy low, let us know.

    You cannot just erase, Time, and Max Number of attempts from an equation.

    If only 12% of the games population within 3 years time will only ever have 10-20 chances to do a pen attempt, (if they ever get that far)..It is very likely that all 20 chances will fail...at which point, most say F'it.

    Who blames them.

    The system is garbage.
     
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    well i guess i got "very lucky" cuz i failed 14 tri crescent in a row and according to you i had only 1.3% chances to do this.. just like making a PEN XD btw RNG doesnt work in this way but works with the algorythm they wrote ingame that may be a little different from your 4th grade math.
     
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    just a little update for the pass 2week any progression but only regression on my gear drop level and gear no more durability , my 105 fail stack still the same any progression , i just play the yo-yo from pri to duo and waste about 400 million and waste 300 more memory for any any progression but only regression anyway 15 more day on my value pack and the break is coming for this game , going for ffxi or maybe gw2

     
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    Can't talk about FF but GW2 is definitely worth checking out ! (Also R6S, but that's a different genre).

    But I see what you mean. My value packs just finished (None bought) and for the past 2 or 3 weeks... I've wasted the value packs and combat books... I guess BDO isn't just sparking enough interests for me; I mean I used them with the intent to actively play and I just didn't play it actively at all (Well the terrmian event didn't help). The game is really boring and isn't challenging or attracting enough for me. The only interest would be to do afk-activities while plyaing other games and hope for one day it will be worth lol. But I doubt it will !

    I will be playing R6S and GW2; and enjoy RL. BDO isn't worth the trouble.
     
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  12. Tupu

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    Failed my Kutum 6 times in a row 101 stacks and my whole gear is now pri without dura.
    Im really ****ed right now, thinking of coming back wow with the new exp.
    Im not hardcore player so that was months of progress that died in 5 mins.
     
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  13. BaldVulture

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    The fix is easy make cron stones 100,000 silver each instead of 1,000,000 silver each.... and there, overnight the gear gap issue would be solved and id come back to play the game.
     
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  14. Fearless V

    Fearless V TranscendentSoul Witch NA

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    Enhancement system in it's current format. Is the reason BDO will not be my main game. Telling me I have to play the game for 2 years before I may get a chance to start having fun. Very off putting.

    Wasn't for the graphics and style. I would've uninstalled and never looked back. W/E at least I can say I tried BDO.

    Enjoy yet another shitty ratting and review!
     
  15. Reigne Irkalla

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    It might interest you to know that KR has "Caphras Stones" which replaces Cron Stones by allowing you to keep shoving Caphras stones at your gear to force it to all the way to PEN. Can still use Cron Stones if you want to enhance the normal way too.
     
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    it will never solve this bad enhancement system since the drop rate will be low and the amount if "caphras stones" requiered excessively high
    on paper sure that's nice to avoid the RNG, but knowing PA they certainly set that to be bad enough to finaly not be really interesting. ( on top of promoting all cash shop drop rate boost )

    it will neither "solve" the fact that you will still have to do the same thing : mindless grind spot.
     
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  17. Draconnix

    Draconnix Berserker 62

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    It would help a lot if we could see % enchant chance.
     
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  18. Smileybones

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    You're saying you have to grind in a korean grinder ? Shocking !
     
  19. Reigne Irkalla

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    Oh no. Grinding. However will I survive. Woe is me. I'm a doomed Rei. A doomed Rei, I say!
     
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  20. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Honestly it would have been stupid as a profit making company to have reviled this information early....

    The system is based on exponential price increase with logarithmic growth, combined with BS assumptions on rng, and deceiving people.

    As customers..what do we want, more deception? Or more content?
     
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