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Enough with the RNG!

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Amazebals, Jan 20, 2019.

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TOO MUCH RNG?

  1. Keep current RNG

    61 vote(s)
    22.6%
  2. Reduce it

    101 vote(s)
    37.4%
  3. Obliterate it

    108 vote(s)
    40.0%
  1. Amazebals

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    I think this thread has got huge attention, but up to now, not even one word from the devs.

    For the mods, do you think it’s possible to get a response from them?
     
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  2. Narcosis

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    Don't expect much. The Shai censorship thread received huge attention and quickly grew to #1 thread on the forums, nothing was addressed in the end. The only thing was a >consideration< to make the current censored underwear dyable... which is impossible and everyone knows it.
     
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  3. MagicalTabletopGirls

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    They aren't even whales they prey on people with gambling addiction ie mental illness, hoping they drain their bank accounts out every month on RNG.
     
  4. 2Cents

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    By your own standards Billion Dollar companies would be making a lot of profit if they had only made a few million instead. You completely fail to understand the point of "maximizing potential".

    So as you say, please stop making **** up.
     
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  5. Phoenixxx75

    Phoenixxx75 Lahn 61 NA

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    They are mia on a lot of important threads.
     
  6. Boink

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    It is no different in the outside world. There are tons of stuff out there that markets and target to their audience. To be honest however I had a gambling addiction but I'm a "good" gambler. I never fell prey on the marketing p2w strategies of this company by putting thousands of dollars with Artisans and Crons. I find the enhancement some of the worst playable odds I've seen. I just got lucky :D.

    I see BDO have a perfect balance of those that PvP and willing to look at this game "competitively" by investing hundreds and thousands of dollars to get their gear. And those that target casual gamers who just play the game in their own progression/time. If they want to be on the top well gonna put the time or real $ for it.

    Forbes did mint PA owner a brand new Billionaire last year and recently bought EVE Online. I'm sure they are doing fine.
     
  7. MagicalTabletopGirls

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    Except in the outside world you have to be 18 or in some cases 21 and up to enter a casino & the women there are real.
     
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  8. Boink

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    There is no doubt in my mind that it is a predatory and highly addictive scheme they have in this game. But it is not different that most MMORPG that have different "rewards" mechanics and RNG will always be inherently there. One example comes into mind is raiding a dungeon. The rewards are more likely tied to RNG. That's the goal is to keep players in game.
    They will keep adding up "progression" because it stimulates the rewards center of your brain. BlackStar wink wink. If you fail to +15 you have a "p2c" of croning your way to the top.

    As far as Casino and this game is concerned. I rather gamble in a casino, I have better odds there. I'm sure I can get my dopamine high at a much better rate.
     
  9. WinterMilla

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    The truth is, even if 30 people here in this forum stopped spending money in this game it would hardly change anything. To make even the slightest change in a devs mind is to have no less then two thousand + people stop before they start making changes. Games such as this make most of their money off a small group of players, aka the whales.

    Black desert is no longer only on PC , but every commonly used device on the market. So that means that 100 PC users quitting is almost like throwing a penny into a fountain. The only reason why they listen to KR more than other servers is because every time they mess up KR comes in and tells them "hey you ****ed up" in mass a lot of the time. This happens with most games to be honest. So a lot of the time KR gets a lot of lead ways that helps them while they are playing and makes the game feel less of a mess.For other servers, the community can't even agree if the grass is even green.

    The game works off a "create a problem and sell you a solution" model. This means that the game will make something painful to then offer you a way of doing it faster and less painful. An example of this would be the enhancing in the game. To enhance in most cases you need the following:
    1.) fail stacks
    2.) black stones
    4.) a way to repair the gear (most cases memory frags)
    5.) cron stones for those higher enchantments
    6.) A good amount of luck and spare silver

    As most players here know each one of these have a heavy amount of RNG. Yet at the same time each one of these has a cash shop item that helps you save both time and stress on enhancing. You could say they don't give you a 100% chance success rate, however that's the point. It makes the failing feel less painful, but makes it so you keep spending money. When Caphras stones were first announced i was kinda excited that I can finally stop building fail stacks however they put RNG on that drop and made it so it takes a large amount to achieve it. So you can spend a few months to get boss pieces up to tet and pen and still have to buy more just to get to hard cap with caphras. Or you can just spend a little bit money gets cron stones with artisans memories get full tet and/or pen then use the free siliver and start going for lvl 20 Pen caphras.

    Just because another game has p2w elements disguise as pay for convenience, doesn't mean you can't ask for it out of your game. They most likely will ignore you as they still print money this low handed way and can just use the community to fight itself. I can't blame them really, I mean who wouldn't want to make a product where you can make 8 billion in 2 years and be called scummy vs 3 billion in 6 years and be called a fair company. Most costumers are used to getting screwed and hate the idea of making things less of a pain in the ass simply because they don't wanna lose their power/ because they went through hardship so can you. Don't get me wrong I don't mind grinding for hours and hours to upgrade my gear, but I don't like playing with my gear and risking losing my money making just to get stronger. Again this is one example I could right at least 10 - 20 pages on how this game screws you an how players are just whipping dogs for their master's to tease them 24/7.
     
  10. Corsix

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    RNG is all a SCAM to get more people to buy more costumes and pearl shop items.

    All about $ in the end.
     
  11. 6footgeeks

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    that moment when archeage now has a 100 times more tolerable RNG and less P2W than this game XD
     
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  12. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    blackstar weapons with retarded % chances for max enhancement level are introduced (fu if u dont use crons basically).... next step -> developers announce traditional weapon reworks.

    coincindence? :D
     
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  13. Findubar

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    Gta made a casino with irl gambling. And it's banned in south korea. Bdo when?
     
  14. Myntiix

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    doesnt make sense.
     
  15. Findubar

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    I guess foreign companies are getting the politicans to ban that sick filth, but they tolerate it as long as their own companies make money, especially in the west.
    Or that it might be harder for the average technologically impaired politician to realize what bdo is doing under their nose. Or both.
    Also, Gta went balls to the walls with it.
    edit: they only banned access to the tables not the game
     

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