I don't need death penalty. Nor do we have karma bombers on EU in mid gear or high gear areas. As I said many times, these kind of people are ruining the fun for new and/or low geared players only. Step back and look at the whole situation for a bit. Only an idiot would defend the current karma system. Why? Because you can not karma bomb anyone in desert, everyone can go red without losses. Nobody will ever die to a mob in the desert. So where is karma bombing possible? NEW PLAYER spots. Helms, sausans, elrics, basilisks, bashims, centaurs, gahaz. And the only two group grinding spots in the game. You can blame me as much as you want for the fact that I care for a healthy player base and new players. Or you join the columba squad and spend your whole day on forums not playing the game because there is nobody to play with. Edit: Here you can see how the game developed. Insanely toxic stupid people like this guy appear and says he is gonna report people for using an in-game function. And trys to project his toxic behaviour on other, new player.