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Global Lab Patch Notes 2020.11.20 - Node War changes, Family inventory, "loot scroll Fever", etc.

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Alterist, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:32 AM.

  1. Alterist

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    Depends entirely on your class, your gear, where you grind and how many interruptions you'll have. Overclearing will be something to consider too, as waiting for your pets, or manually picking up, may be beneficial.

    Also that table is pointless as it doesn't reference which class this information was taken from. Not to mention that both mobs/h and trash/h are incorrect here and there.
     
  2. Arch2k

    Arch2k Devil_Monkeys Lahn 63 NA

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    Yea the last part u said I think is pretty confusing at the least
     
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    It's from Janna. We can safely ignore it either way.
     
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    Both but more towards buff.
    Scroll = time is ticking. More difficult mobs require more time to kill, small groups mobs, return to horse, weapons repair. Everything takes your time, so you lose trash.
    Point system = like second agris, you play at your own pace.
     
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    true especialy when everyone is so obsess by an hypothetical spreadsheet of "trash per hours & average income per spot" while i bet no one really optimize like that their entier grinding hours
     
  6. WaifuJanna

    WaifuJanna WaifuJanna Witch EU

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    ??? how can it be incorrect if u say in the same sentence u dont know what class.. Class was perfect class for each spot aka Best result.

    it will be a buff in all cases (when it hit life-servers). Pearl abyss even saying it:

    upload_2020-11-22_13-4-20.png


    and the table is very accurate. its not my data. I just made the Math on it. its data from many sources just best case scenario (maximum extrema) to show that even if u would play the perfect class for each spot.. you still cannot beat the old scroll (except Protty, but they can easy adjust that)

     
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    WaifuJanna WaifuJanna Witch EU

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    so thx for testing, too :) this just proves the table has very good rates:

    you made ~2k trash in 60 min. table says:
    upload_2020-11-22_14-46-44.png
     
    #67 WaifuJanna, Nov 22, 2020 at 12:11 PM
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  8. Unranked

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    enough people pull more then 6k trash on a normal ls at sycraia so thats one thing to consider. the other is you based kills per hour on trash per hour, but its not the same. people over clear and if you overclear with these new type of scroll you waste points, and if you dont overclear you waste xp.
     
  9. WaifuJanna

    WaifuJanna WaifuJanna Witch EU

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    the trash per hour is only there for reference since most people dont count their kills..(the only reason i showed them is, that if u know u get arround 5k trash at sycraia you know u killed arround 1700 mobs [since many people has zero idea how much the mob density is.. people told me they easy kill 5000 mobs at hystria... only cause they got 5k trash... ]) The Kills where counted with marnies/guildmission/globallab counting tool. And as u can see all places are GREEN/White except protty.. So even if u somehow manage to be a bit faster. you still will be in the green/white area Which means BUFF!


    if u get 6k trash in 1700 mobs or 5k trash (ecology/notelevel10 procs).. doesnt matter. still 1700 mobs -> same points consumed VS 1 hour.
     
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    then how about the fact I consume 80k+ agris/h in sycraia, at 40/mob that means atleast 2k mobs/h...
     
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    WaifuJanna WaifuJanna Witch EU

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    agris points are not the same then lootscrolls points. they have different numbers... u will not kill 2k mobs there no matter what.
     
  12. Dannyswe1235

    Dannyswe1235 Kunoichi 62 EU

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    probably depends on what spot and you can still use ls as normal and not turn them to ls points i think
     
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    Dannyswe1235 Kunoichi 62 EU

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    ? if he use 80k agris points in 1 hour he will kill 2k mobs in 1 hour. 40*2000=80000
     
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    he propably killed trashmobs/tentacles then.... i am fine tuning the list now.. on 4 digits...
     
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    Those dont consume agris so no. Also, 4 digits don't mean anything if your source data is scuffed as it is, and doesn't have the same amount of digits either.
     
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    @WaifuJanna I like how you spend time in making this, its actually quite usefull. having said that, one point of advice would be to change the format for zones where you kill less then 1,000k mobs, because if you use , for a thousand seperator and then write a 0 in front of it, it looks kinda confusing for every country that natively uses , as decimal sperator. it would look better if you would just put 395 rather then 0,395 there for example.
    upload_2020-11-22_14-51-59.png
     
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    WaifuJanna WaifuJanna Witch EU

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    thats the problem i told andaro. its US/EU/GERMAN conversion.. if i change 1 thing the complete list is ****ed up...

    since i use US streamer/google doc data its "," so 1,300 and 0,300 instead of 1.300 and 300 ... so i cant cut the 0 from 0,300 cause in german those are digits and not thousander markers. :)

    and thats why the digits matter , since excel round the DIGITS the data dont work with 12.345 trashloot it works with 12,3456789123 trashloot.
     
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    weird I think there isn't a single country where 0,300 is the valid way for writing down 300. you only use thousand seperators if you actually use numbers higher then 999.
     
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    WaifuJanna WaifuJanna Witch EU

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    no but the Data i import is for example 1,200 monsters killed and 2,300 trashloot dropped over 23,000 points

    if i want to calculate anything with that excel riots and specialy if i convert it to percentage.. now lets say i want to add +1 monster then i need to write + 0,001 else it makes 2,200
    upload_2020-11-22_15-12-40.png

    I can try import the numbers to word and then convert them over an api.

    But it makes me a bit sad, i love working with data and makeing such statistics, and the community always say "no, **** data" but without any evidence or pointing in the direction what is wrong... I looked up several spreedsheats, reddit, youtube, twitch, korea inven, and bdohub for different sources...
     

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