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Greed- The #1 reason why BDO is failing to deliver a good MMO experience.

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Unabating, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Unabating

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    The devs are greedy, players are greedy, the black spirit is greedy.

    Cron stones changes/new market place - Players found out how to exploit the game to make as much money as possible, so devs are increasing prices and adding more P2W, thus raising the barrier of entry for new players to play the game. Greed all around.

    nerfs/buffs - Players constantly complain about other classes being OP, while failing to realize that the primary source of OP is created by AP/DP brackets. Devs added these brackets for softcap + players to keep their interest to get them to spend more cash. Greed from devs, greed from players.

    The real solution to our disparity is to combat the greed, not cover it up with bandaids.
    We NEED:
    better group content=better community
    less p2w
    remove/nerf AP/DP brackets

    This is not a debate, this is the truth.

    Yours truly
     
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  2. AtomicPotato

    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    tl dr - OP want WOW
     
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  3. LightningFFXIII-4

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    FFXIV 5.0 in 3 months.




    That's the actual main producer of FFXIV in a costume, talking to players and taking direct input. They don't have a middleman like BDO where it has Kakao. And you know what happens when you got a middleman, things get lost in the sauce.
     
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  4. Silowyi

    Silowyi Wizard NA

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    Greed...All MMOs have it.
     
  5. Souda

    Souda Warrior 61 EU

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    Of course FF14 is a quality mmorpg with no p2w, thats why it has a subscription fee
     
  6. Silowyi

    Silowyi Wizard NA

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    That game definitely has developers that give players what they want. It has a sub since the longest and it still has a rock solid player base. Too bad is not my ideal MMO. I played the trial and enjoyed it for a bit but I was mostly bored to heck. Its just doesnt appeal to me.
     
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    Oh our "ambassadors" and "communitymanagers" are whiteknights sucking every bone PA throws at them, while never ever once take critique serious but even make fun of it all the time?
    That's old news.

    That's why they got the "job" in the first place, cuz they never address critique, never. And they always defend and suck PA, always. Its not their job to be serious but to make everything look fine and dandy.

    I mean what are even the names of our Ambassadors and CMs? The guy with the yellow tag? Did anyone saw him posting anything serious matter ever? Other than his washed out humor pissing on peoples critiques every now and then? "Ambassador"...Gimme a break, lmfao.
     
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  8. Dreadhood

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    Honestly, what are you doing here? Why can't you just leave BDO and go play FF14? Genuine question since you seem to absolutely hate BDO.
     
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  9. Unabating

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    No, I just want a quality experience for EVERYONE who plays BDO, as per the title. Why don't you?
     
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  10. AtomicPotato

    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    What you mean by "quality experience for everyone" ? You want everyone jump to engame by skipping "whole game" ?
    This is progression MMORPG - where you progress > you "skill", and progression is reason of play this game/gameplay, if you want to play "skill based" "fair" "for everyone" game - you should play other game. No one is going to give you endgame for free and in 1 week.
     
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  11. Josh28

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    Want better game experience? Greed is fine, and promotes progress...but the current PA devs/management is just incompetent to deliver what gamers expect. Also, it requires far more money for companies to deliver expectations now than in the past even if a small part only goes to development.

    That's what the current game industry has evolved into. Lazy to deliver but greedy and shameless online casinos.

    What'll actually happen: Changes no one wanted, additions no one asked for or a are priority, but justifies the microtransactions that will be added later on.

    From the point of view of PA shareholders, BDO could make more money but wasn't making nearly enough as other companies, and they have to exploit the Loot Boxes loophole before it becomes regulated by countries. The game just needs to be entertaining enough to keep dumb people playing long enough to get them addicted and open their wallets.

    The future of video games will be logging with your bank account to play. If you are poor, sorry but you are fodder for the richer whether you like it, admit it or not.
     
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  12. Unabating

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    Your argument is invalid because you took it to such an extreme to make your point that it becomes absurd. I'm not asking for the endgame to happen instantly. I'm merely stating the truth; that the power disparity between the people at endgame and everyone else is also absurd, just like your argument. Do you understand the difference? Currently the "progression" is on an exponential curve that is out of control and the curve needs to be toned down. If you disagree with this, then you are flat out blinded by Greed, the #1 reason why BDO is failing to give a good MMO experience.
     
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  13. Thelemna

    Thelemna Softspoken Tamer 62 NA

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    Because even die hard FF fans take mid patch breaks because it is a very casual friendly game and you can "hardcore" finish everything including any new savage content in the first couple weeks to a month of a major expansion.
     
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    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    So you saying a Bob who joined 1 week ago, should be equal to a Tod who play for 3 years, despite efforts Tod put into game and type of game? You are failed to recognize MMO with progression MMORPG.
     
  15. Kelt Rand

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    You obviously never watched Gordon Gekko’s “greed is good” speech in Wall Sreet!
     
  16. Factorial

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    No. What he is saying is that it shouldn't take you 3 years to be viable against people who have been here even 10000000000 years.

    The game (read: game) should not be a job.
     
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    AtomicPotato DarkKnight 62 EU

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    What is that bullsht ? Why would anyone ever play this game for so long if there is easy to get caps ? Go play The Division - 1 week to cap - 1 week of play and you leave, every other game with what you describe is basically dead as there is nothing to do in game.
    BDO is literately weapon racing game, can you imagine bone arrow civilization join competition with nuke tech civ and catch up them in 5 years ?
     
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    Luv yah man.
     
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    Honestly why even care? The dye is already cast. The train has already left the station is not coming back. It's not even important or anything to worry about, at least over here in NA. Because our worthwhile devs. will never pull this. Because they cater to a..... that's right a Western audience. A audience who demands that skill, effort, and work, over luck should be the deciding factors. A audience who demands monetization be kept to cosmetics and minor character/account upgrades. So in my eyes this whole thread is valueless for me as a NA gamer. Because I know that our devs. know what they must do, and not do to make decent games.

    If you decide to play a KMMO knowing that they are ALL P2W RNG casino gear-based dominated progression MMOs. Then complain about them being unfair in PvP or P2W. You display nothing but folly in doing so.

    Western MMOs -->
     
  20. Factorial

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    You have a problem with taking things to the extreme.

    Relax.

    All we are saying is to make the game reasonable to compete in within a decent time frame. Within a 6 month time period, a person should be able to compete with others.

    If that isn't reasonable to you, then your priorities are so ****ed up that you can't be helped.

    It shouldn't take a new player the total amount of time the game has been around for that player to be viable.
     
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