1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Hello when will content be added

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Vieilan, May 3, 2020.

  1. farsay

    farsay Mystic 62 NA

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2018
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    1,183
    Been playing this game on and off for a while now, and there is a lot of content i havent even touched yet.
     
  2. Joungf

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    4,649
    Likes Received:
    5,130
    I should also add that the generations who play suffer from boredom. That is why a game has to provide new content and events, to keep the folks more busy than entertained. Even the new content, recycled events and new stuff could be part of another, a new game, they add it to prevent that player got bored. And player these days got bored very quick.
     
  3. FrozenReaper

    FrozenReaper Archer 62 EU

    Joined:
    May 8, 2017
    Messages:
    2,226
    Likes Received:
    1,898
    just casually account sharing 696gs, nothing illegal here btw
     
    Phoenixxx75 likes this.
  4. Extrabone

    Extrabone Ranger 61

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2017
    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    327
    Like others who've asked before, the answer is never. Everything about BDO and Korean MMOs in general is just a selection of brain-dead grinding activities; kinda like their work culture. This game is even lazier in content diversity than most mobile games out there.
     
  5. Sadalsuud

    Sadalsuud Tamer 62 EU

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,618
    Likes Received:
    1,976
    Aaaah, so that's when you shifted from "RNG" to "repetitive". Not so fast, my friend, the problem is in the RNG, not from the repetition. Like you, I'd rather choose a way of progression that is not artificially bottlenecked (I don't like systems that limits your progression per day or week) but what is RNG in this case, if not an even worse kind of artificial bottleneck that may never end?

    I personnally don't support this kind of "content" as it is only laziness. We as players should support real content, real accomplishments, through quests, even repetition, whatever! Or let's be crazy and ask our devs for new well-thought innovative mechanics, don't allow them to be lazy!

    You may be happy to see infinite potions coming on our version, for me it is simply another proof that they lost most of their ambition in making BDO a better game. Sadly.
     
  6. woots

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2015
    Messages:
    5,021
    Likes Received:
    3,905
    repetition isnt the problem, as indeed at some point you will inevitably repeat a task many time ( irl or games ) the problem lie in what are you have to DO during thoses repetition.
    and as i said early in that thread what you have to DO in BDO ( very saddly ) barely worse more than a pre alpha game having 1% of his playable content;

    In GTAOnline, i did the heist an incredible amount of time, yet i never was bored a second as this content ( that's an actual real content ) is well thought to be entertaining.

    Like i suppose you will get bored to death watching a movie where the actor repeat the same 1min sentense during 1h30, even if that sentense is repeated in different looking environment every 20min.
    You will need a ot of things to "feel" the movie ( i suppose i dont need to list everything )
     
    #66 woots, May 4, 2020
    Last edited: May 4, 2020
    sajdas, Fateneko and Life2v like this.
  7. Joungf

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    4,649
    Likes Received:
    5,130
    Any boring repetitive task can be turned into a real exciting adventure and fun if the devs turn on their brain and implement some unexpected random features that do spice up the task. If they use their RNG for some good, surprising mechanics ... ah, I should stopp dreaming ....
     
    Reyer, sajdas and Phoenixxx75 like this.
  8. Catastigma

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    4,027
    Likes Received:
    2,884

    Like you surely finded in some post ago. that your activity-related pleasure is suggestive.

    It's not laziness devs. it's target audience.

    your feeling towards the content is of the order of your unique appreciation.

    There are tens of thousands of people who enjoy these new goals.
    this content is made for them, the game is made for them.
     
  9. Joungf

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    4,649
    Likes Received:
    5,130
    Exactly. It is for them ...... ;-)
     
  10. woots

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2015
    Messages:
    5,021
    Likes Received:
    3,905
    you mean the players that need to have their hand held with one of the most easy game system ever made ( casino + no challenging pve + super p2w + exploit free game ) and then come pretend BDO is the hardest game in the history to make look like their "accomplishment" mean something.

    yeah indeed i see the audience

    well that if we dont consider that they run more a buisiness model than a game, where player still succeed to excuse most of the "no design"
     
  11. LightningFFXIII-4

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2016
    Messages:
    2,996
    Likes Received:
    2,434
    Next content update: Infinite Cron Meals. You just need to butcher 1 million animals.
     
    Phoenixxx75, sajdas and Joungf like this.
  12. Sadalsuud

    Sadalsuud Tamer 62 EU

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,618
    Likes Received:
    1,976
    Strangely, I'd say it would be less of a problem, there's no artificial bottleneck in this and in the end, you'd get your item. But many players would find it boring.
    At the same time, simply change the requirement from "butcher 1 million animals" to "butcher animals until you get several items with 0.0001% drop rate" and these same players would love it.


    So yeah @Catastigma, you can see it that way too : players do not have heavy demands, so devs are giving them the bare minimum. But what does it change? Laziness is slowly killing the MMORPG genre. No ambition from either side.
     
    #72 Sadalsuud, May 4, 2020
    Last edited: May 4, 2020
  13. Prokaizer

    Prokaizer Maehwa

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2019
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    183
    This game lacks a lot of things.

    1 : skins
    There are very limited skins in BDO. Games like B&S got more than 100+ skins and the half of them are obtained completely free by farming dungeons, running events or participating in battlegrounds/arenas/etc.

    2 : you cannot trade with other people
    Even if you got friends you are not allowed to trade something your friend needs with something he has and you need it. (before you start with the bot sellers and other BS, i have to remind you that community managers, admins and other people jobs are to ban people like them. Also they can put certain requirements, like reach story to X chapter or reach X level to be able to type in chat.)

    3 : solo dungeons / group dungeons / raids / activities to do with group or friends
    Some people will say that guild quests are group activities. No i don't think they are group activities. They are nothing more than a guild payment and players don't even hit the same mobs, they just spread to the whole territory and who ever comes near they kill him. If they cant they call their other friends to PK him over and over again untill he leaves the area.

    4 : dye your armor / weapons / mount skins
    There are over 6 different type of paletts and each one of them has over 100 different type of colours in it, so even if you log in every day for 10 years straight, it will be highly impossible for you to get the colours you need to customize your character.

    Now lets go to the bad things this game has.

    1 : PvP damage
    A player with full TRI gear cannot compete at all with a player with full TET gear. The damage difference is insane due to the AP brackets. And a player with full TET gear cannot compete with a player with full PEN gear. If you played Aion in it's golden era, you could see Twink characters with 55 level abyss gear competing with 60 level abyss gear players because the damage difference was not so broken as it is in BDO.

    2 : p2w ellements
    cron stones by melting costumes gives you another try to enchance your item without demoting it.
    life skilling skin giving you boosts.
    mount riding skin giving you boosts.
    swimming skin giving you boosts.
    mount skill change coupons which helping you to make your horses coursers and selling them at x3 the non courser price and if it is tier 8 horse you can sell it instead of 200 millions for over 900 millions.
    inventory space.
    extra weight.
    t4 / t5 pets.
    fairies.
    tent.

    Now what is good about this game.

    1 : no loading screens
    2 : open world
    3 : good graphic design
    4 : it is easy to get mount in this game compared to other games
    5 : nice combat experience "versus mobs only" and fast blocking reaction time
    6 : servers are stable and the latency is low compared to other games
    7 : plenty of things to do

    Conclusion this is a decent game where you can have fun, untill you realise that the game is p2w and no matter how much you practise in pvp, you are always going to get 1 shoted from p2w players and lose your spot.
     
    Reyer, B00tsy, woots and 5 others like this.
  14. Joungf

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    4,649
    Likes Received:
    5,130
    Well said. I could continue adding points that are missing in BDO but are core parts of any good mmorp game.
     
    Phoenixxx75 likes this.
  15. Marzipan Stan

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2019
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    18
    servers are what and latency is what
     
    Phoenixxx75 and KhaosThanathan like this.
  16. Vortexii

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2020
    Messages:
    1,863
    Likes Received:
    1,832
    There where some interesting points brought up about how Sand Box games perform. All of the mundane daily tasks actually take away from the Sand Box experience. Most of BDO's activities have become Theme Park. You follow the path, you don't get to choose.

    Life Skilling to drain out energy is actually a Theme park system. You don't do it because "that's what you chose to do". You chose to do it because it yielded stupid profits. While if you remove those profits, the tasks will not get done.

    There are at 2 least quest NPC's in Velia that are done virtually immediately and give energy. The Cat and the Crio Turn in. Those are Theme Park based. I WOULD NEVER do those quests every day in a Sand Box game. I would choose to do other things. However, do the reward vs time they become part of the mundane experience.

    Turning in crates, imperial, cooking, fishing etc. It's actually all Theme Park. Would I come home and run a character to another town to sell fish in a Sand Box. NOPE. Not fun in the least. The ONLY reason is the Sea Monster Hunting effect. It's simply to lucrative. It's NOT WHAT I WANT to be doing. It's simply taking an easy route for profit.

    All of these things add up and really just use up your game time ruining it. If you only play for a short duration and consume a decent amount of your time doing these things, it's not a sand box. Nor are you doing what you really want in the game. You are simply following the theme park rewards.

    This even includes things like selecting your "Y" rewards. Doing the daily black spirit free boss scrolls (even just accepting them). So many minuscule tasks just to occupy your time. None of which are things you really want to do. They are only designed to consume your time and keep you "engaged #notengaged in the game"
     
    Joungf and Fearless V like this.
  17. Catastigma

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    4,027
    Likes Received:
    2,884
    BDO is a SANDPARK.... Like L2.

    Your definition of themepark makes absolutely no sense. your Sandbox one either

    A purely sandbox mmorpg does not exist outside of *minecraft*.


    1: People would gather long before it was profitable for their personal resource gains.
    2: Not all routes are comparable in terms of profitability on Eve Online either. We call it realism.
    3: the daily scrolls are nothing more than a casualization of the game, considering the whines who could not participate in the Field boss who had spawn random and without alert. where a number of people could have drop was limited too.
     
    #77 Catastigma, May 4, 2020
    Last edited: May 4, 2020
    PeaceInChaos likes this.
  18. Fearless V

    Fearless V Lahn 61 NA

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2017
    Messages:
    3,805
    Likes Received:
    3,314
    That's a Themepark game trying to masquarade as a Sandbox game.

    Here are the facts.
    - BDO has more restriction of gameplay than well established Themepark MMOs like ESO and GW2.
    - In BDO you are not able to realistically progress doing what you enjoy doing but what the devs. decide will yield you progress. In ESO and GW2 you can realistically progress doing any of the features of those MMOs.
    - There is no player economy in BDO it is heavily controlled by the devs. In ESO and GW2 the economy is mostly ran by the players.
    - There is absolutely no persistent gameplay in BDO. PvP in ESO persistent for a whole month at a time.
    - BDO's gameplay is completely strangled by the cash shop. ESO and GW2's cash shop have little to no influence on gameplay or balance.

    BDO is nothing more than a Open World Themepark Korean Grinder.
     
    Reyer, Extrabone, Joungf and 2 others like this.
  19. Catastigma

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    4,027
    Likes Received:
    2,884
    1: False, ESO/GW2 you have 3 way P , Dungeon, Arena/BG/duel that sit all the rest is **** pointless and serve to nothing. Gearing is even completely useless on GW2. in 2 weeks your full gear and there is no significant progress afterwards. you literally play for NOTHING. you do raid and dungeon for NOTHING, you do BG and duel for NOTHING. no need to lie, I'm played a good time at your **** mmo.
    2: ESO and GW2 dont have economy at all, Must stop bullshiter. * Trade * guild on ESO is a joke, any good Guild structure has its own resources. you never have to do to other players outside your guild when you enter an organized structure.
    3: BDO pvp no persistant ? HEELLLOOO ManUp stay in Valencia for 1 and a half years ... Your little month on ESO is pitiful.
    4: The purchase of extensions has an impact for example ... Not to mention the RMT of GOLD and account that exists on any game. whose existence you hide from yourself by dishonesty and sorry to teach you that we can play BDO very well without spending a *fortune*, whereas playing without the extensions on ESO and GW2 is a cut of * Content*


    Anyway I stop answering now. I got the energy. people of bad faith and dishonesty are always present to vomit everywhere.
    You don't like the game and the game will never change for your face.
    Get the hell out.
     
    #79 Catastigma, May 4, 2020
    Last edited: May 4, 2020
  20. Fearless V

    Fearless V Lahn 61 NA

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2017
    Messages:
    3,805
    Likes Received:
    3,314
    For someone you played a lot of ESO and GW2 you sure speak a lot of falsehoods. And you talk about me being of bad faith and dishonesty? YOUR WHOLE POST IS COMPLETE DISHONESTY. But I guess it was foolish of me to expect any better out of you given your post history.
     
    Reyer, Extrabone, Nibu and 2 others like this.

Share This Page