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Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by GreyRebel, Sep 4, 2018.

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  1. Asterotis

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    Said the troll.
     
  2. Ellman

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    OP has to be a troll, surely no real person can be this foolish
     
  3. GreyRebel

    GreyRebel DarkKnight 62 EU

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    People just say thats a korean mmo , so ye its a thing in theire culture (atleast gaming culture)
    And no no dont get me wrong im not asking to remove all ur hopes n loves like maid costumes , im sure many of u have the "fantasy" of fighting as a maid . No i never saud remove it , coz i know it wont ,
    All i say is . Im saying mybe add a none high heels outfit or armor for my class , its realy hurtful to see they wear high heels with plate armors (last outfit)
    Also my biggest complain was about those kids at calpheon wearing stocking n high heels,
    Is it realy that hard for them to mybe add or request it to pa to add outfits like starting gears or maehwa and tamer?
     
  4. Cardiel

    Cardiel Disglair DarkKnight NA

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    how do you know they are underage btw?
     
  6. Safka

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    We are talking about these Shai, right?

    shai-valkyrie.jpg

    Hurtful? Really? Surely you're not that sensitive.
     
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  7. GreyRebel

    GreyRebel DarkKnight 62 EU

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    Im sry , im fine with people who are against me and i respect them and thank them to leave theire comments n tell theire opinions ,
    But im not fine with trolls , im blocking you both, gl
     
  8. Asterotis

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    K, keep on trollin' with your false moralistic compass.
     
  9. DivinityDay

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    Sex, gambling...its Vegas.
     
  10. Cardiel

    Cardiel Disglair DarkKnight NA

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    To be real, you're not the only person who has asked for more modest outfits.

    The reality is that beautiful bodies sell, and this is a video game that's not actually portraying anything taboo. Long legs and short skirts *can be* beautiful without attempting to *sexually arouse* the viewer. Hence tasteful nudity in art being a thing. That's why these sorts of outfits are ok, and why it's not immoral to enjoy wearing sexy clothing.

    Now I'm not saying creepos out there don't exist, and I'm sure some people even legitimately like tamer as a class, but tamer has some of the most toned down costumes anyway.

    As far as children NPCs go, I've never seen a sexualized one so idk what you're going on about.
     
  11. GreyRebel

    GreyRebel DarkKnight 62 EU

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    Again . Im sure playing in a maid outfit n killing bosses in high heels looks beautiful to u ,
    and if u dont see anything wrong with children wearing high heels n stocking then i dont think there is any point of saying its not right ,
    About tamer i said her first armor , literly the default 1,not those ( i wanna look beautiful and sexy outfits ( even tho tamer designed to not to be a mature class))in shop.
    And i have no idea where did u find the wordd " sexualy aroused" , im sure u get sexualy aroused.... by looking at dark knights plate armor with high heels
     
  12. Schinrah

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    If you take issue with high heals equip urugons and turn of your outfit, there you go no high heels. Personally I enjoy and like the aesthetics of this game and it simply looks better and yes sexier if the armors have high heels. And as far as 99% of asian fantasy art concerning women goes , their armors will come with high heels even when they are not showing alot of skin.

    Is this practical, or realistic, hell no. Even modelling "breasts" onto armor would not only be superficial in a real world setting but also diminish the protection of that armor. But I'm playing an asian fantasy mmo that depicts an asian view/take on a western medieval setting. (Western, from an asian perspective including middle east/african sceneries). Going at it and expecting any sort of realism, or even thinking the majority of the players of this game have your oppinion is megalomaniac.

    As you said, you've been playing for a short period of time, alot of us remaining here have played this game much much longer, so strictly from a logical point of view you can expect most of us to either not care one bit about this "issue" or we are actually playing amongst other things because it looks exactly the way it does.

    So I can understand your oppinion, but I take issue with your attempts to color it as the majorities oppinion and asking us to stand up and make change happen because you think things are wrong the way they are. Let alone you not understanding the lore of this game hence why you think those characters are all children.
     
  13. Cardiel

    Cardiel Disglair DarkKnight NA

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    Nope. I don't. I find it beautiful and appealing to the eye.

    Google "little girl church shoes" and literally the first picture you find is a shoe with a heel.

    I also apparently have some scandalous pictures of myself at 5 years old in my Easter outfit complete with stockings and shoes with heels.

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    You need to chill, my dude, and realize you're trying to pass off your conservative opinion by damning these unoffending shoes as something super serious like pedophilia - which it isn't.
     
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  14. Dryed

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    Its just a game get over it, probably 80%+ of guys who play this game, play it because of this. Its a fantasy, what is your problem? Did you start playing this game and expect it to have same laws as real life LUL? Don't play games if you can't take a fantasy...

    What kind of person goes to war with high heels, hmmmm??? what kind of person holds staff and shoots magic, have you asked yourself that question? Exactly a game character does...
     
  15. Capitaine Courage

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    This is a very, very common but also a wrong idea alas.
    Swords, even the two handed largest swords models (Zweihander, Montante, Espadon ...) were actually sharp. Some of the parts of the blade were blunt, usually the first third of the blade, sometimes even covered in leather to have a second handle in order to optimize leverage effects, but they were actually sharp. They are used to cut, slash, counterslash, thrust, and even with half swording techniques
    And still, none of the designs of greatswords presented in black desert are fonctionnal, none of them, even the simplest ones, that could barely be lifted IRL.
     
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  16. nolasigns

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    I never claimed the "in game" swords were functional irl- they are exaggerated for obvious reasons. As far as the "sharp edge" portion, I personally donated 27 authentic great and broadswords from various eras when I retired from my job, which none were "sharp" in terms of slicing. They were beveled so as to be bone crushers through plated/ leather Armour. The weight being approx 40 to 60lbs, caused enough momentum, that on raw flesh it would still decapitate necks, or limbs.
     
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    I think I have an understanding of where you're coming from but correct me if I'm wrong. To sum up...

    You think it blatant and obvious that it is 'unbelievable and unacceptable' and 'seriously wrong' that women are depicted 'going to war' in stockings and heels and that 'CHILDREN' (Shai, actually) are depicted in stockings and heels in BDO.

    You think it so blatant and obvious and wrong that you thought you'd most likely get a ton of support on the forums by drawing attention to it and calling for such depictions to be removed. Your justification is that many players of the game are under 16 and that, besides, it's insulting to adults. Oh and unrealistic.

    For a whole month you've been bubbling with indignation over this issue and you've reached the point where you just couldn't hold it in any longer. It's all just so... so... inappropriate.

    my biggest complain was about those kids at calpheon wearing stocking n high heels,

    If this refers to the 'kids' I screengrabbed (above) then...

    1: Not kids.
    2: Not wearing stockings.
    3: Not wearing 'high' heels.

    Also... when you say 'No i never saud remove it' you seem to be forgetting when you said 'i just ask kakao to please atleast remove the childs from valkyre training area in calpheon'

    At least?

    If modesty and realism are your thing... then there are plenty of options for you by mixing and matching pearl-outfits, showing non-outfit armour sets or turning tailored/crafted gear into outfits. Say.

    Your sensibilities will of course continue to be assaulted and offended by the visuals of other players or certain NPCs... which leads me to offer the following advice:

    Attempt to come to a more relaxed, nuanced, accommodating, realistic and rational understanding of the culture and context that you find yourself in... stop seeing inappropriacy where none exists... stop suggesting that BDO change to reflect your views and opinions... and stop implying that people are wrong to find maid outfits, heels and stockings beautiful or sexy. Or avoid environments that offend you such that they are 'unacceptable' and 'wrong.' I'd plump for the former; it's healthier, imo.

    On a purely personal note, I am in awe of the skill and artistry of Korean designers and their outfit-aesthetic in BDO. I think their work fits perfectly within the tradition of romanticised fantasy art that reflects the work of many artists (Tadema, Rackham, Baker, Froud, Dulac etc) with adaptations in keeping with context and a modern audience. I don't find the designs here pornographic, perverted or even overly-sexual... but then I don't hold a worldview that sits on the shoulders of an incoherent patriarchal or kyriarchal foundation, either. Any offence I feel is my own issue to resolve; one that does not require others to adapt for my comfort.

    Best of luck to you.
     
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    Be easier to sum it all up and assume she smoked a good batch and she started over thinking everything.
     
  19. Capitaine Courage

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    Yes, but without sharp edge you can't use halfswording or counterslash techniques, and they were actually used, even with the largest swords, usually to counter armors.
    What was your job ? Working in a museum maybe, or for some private collectors ? Because yes, what you can see in museum is often, to not say always, blunt, be it because the blades, since they're not used anymore, where never resharpened, or because they are museum replicas, like a company such as Albion build, so you have the exact shape of historical models since they are based on it, but they don't put an edge on these swords if it's just for exposition. If it's for practice, and moreover cutting practice, you will have an edge on it.
    The rise of HEMA and the research made these last years debunked a lot of things we thought we knew about medieval fighting techniques. A shame that it took so long for us to rediscover the richness of our martial arts, but we did also lost a lot of masters with 2 world wars in our territory, contrary to the japanese for example.
    Same goes with armors also, often thought to turn the knigths into turtles totally unable to move, while it was actually not the case at all.
     
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    @op
    the day will come when you will wear them and you will understand their glory
     
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