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Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by GreyRebel, Sep 4, 2018.

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  1. nolasigns

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    A historian (not really on this subject), retired now. Those swords were dug from the ground by my wife's European team of independent and EU contracted archaeologist. The reasons they were not particularly sharp, in a slicing sense, in close combat they would lay the swords over their forearms, and use their forearms as a platform to glide the blades back and forth for a stabbing motion (much like you see short swords being glided atop of shields so as to not get cut) and since they were generally "linemen" (lol not like our wizards in a nutshell warriors in BDO) their blades always struck against other heavily armored counters.

    Think of it in terms of- more the Armour, less need for edge, the less Armour means better agility, smaller swords, and less metal to smack against. I have come across differing opinions in all levels of academia, myself, throughout my career. My rule of thumb is "If there is room for debate, then it is not absolute"- I actually attended a conference in Macedonia in 2010 which had these same discussions. I'd go further in depth because it was quite interesting, and of course, differing views.
     
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  2. Peisinoe

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    Whew.... did it just get hot in here or what?
     
  3. GreyRebel

    GreyRebel DarkKnight 62 EU

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    Thanks for not understanding
    First of all , i get pissed of seeing high heels specialy when a warrior wear it (im sry i dont mean to offend your fantasy of women fighting , milking cows ,runing , jumping , climbing ,going to battlegrounds with high heels , i get it im wrong , n every1 should wear high heels coz people think it looks better , tbh i hope 1 day i can suggest it to the militerly to give soldiera high heels )

    Im saying this game is injecting the idea of wearing high heels is cool and is a must to younger people (coz i dont see any option to not wear those) ,
    High heels r bad for health n can realy damage our health
    https://lecomhealth.com/the-real-harm-in-high-heels/
    Again i never said remove it , i say atleast give us a chance to wear something else too ,
    About the kid , wich u say is shai i still think is wrong ,beside from kids shouldnt never wear high heels , that is a training idea , does ur logic accepts training with stocking n high heels???
    Most of players of this game r younger boys , these games r dectating them the wrong kind of beauty , just like what porn industry does
    . Also long ago there was a game called scarlet blade they said its free , n it was korean too , with ur mind n enjoying maid outfits i think u guys should go play that game or atleast try it , then u would send the same post to theire forum as i did here , and u will get mocked n insulted by the community there too .
    Again i didnt say remove ur long life dream of killing dragons n dueling as a maid in high heels , i respect that many would l9ve it , all i said was why the hell my charecter is modeled to wear high heels , its like shes born to wear 1 , even she uses high heels with heavey plate mails n that pisses me off
     
  4. Dryed

    Dryed Warrior 62 NA

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    You literally get to see and pick a character based on looks, yet you pick a character with high heels and then complain about it. Totally makes sense.

    P.S. you should stop comparing game to irl, its just a game..
     
  5. Capitaine Courage

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    Quite interesting indeed.
    What you mention about forearm is actually one of the reasons why the blade doesn't recieves an edge on its totality, and particulary on the parts of the blade you parry with (the the part which is closest to the guard).
    This part was also used to arm "push cuts" from the shoulder (Sorry, English is not my first language so I'll have a hard time explaining some concepts), meaning when the blade is worn tip up in a vertical stance, the guard more or less at the height of your heart, the unsharpen part of the blade on you shoulder, and you use a leverage effect when you arm your strike by raising your hands and making the blade roll over your shoulder, then push it back to deliver a powerful cut forward. It allows to have a nice circular startup movement to optimise your kinetic force vectors while saving space when arming the blow. Such techniques are also used in japanese koryus (and vietnamese also), even if it's with single edged (but also shorter) blades.
    But for such technique to work, the end of the blade needs to be sharp if you want it to be really effective.

    For armors well, that's exactly why technique such as half swordin, (where you handle you sword one hand on the handle, the other hand on the blade), were invented, to work precisely with a shorter blade and strike uncovered part of the body (usually the neck or the shoulder joint), or, if you need to strike with concussive force, use the Mordhau, where you take your sword by the blade (yes, the sharp part, but with technique it's totally doable, and let's not forget these swords were used with gloves), and deliver a powerfull blow (usually to the helmet) with the guard, like you would with a hammer.

    Some techniques and routines with longswords (so a shorter size, but still used with two hands), which debunk a lot of ideas people have about medieval swords being basically used as flat iron clubs. There are some half swording techniques showed there



    Students practicing the Mordhau strike

     
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  6. GreyRebel

    GreyRebel DarkKnight 62 EU

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    There r many people like u who r not getting offended by women being used just a doll or idk eye candy .. U know they say sex sells in these games ..
     
  7. Peisinoe

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    It's a PEGI 16. If people playing are under 16, their parents are letting them down, not the MMO industry.

    I can't understand how wearing heels during combat is a step too far, but throwing fireballs at someone's face, leaving poison on the floor, taking instruction from a spirit that has possessed you, or scooting round on a flying horse is within the realms of acceptability. You're either a massive troll or a little unbalanced.
     
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  8. Andaro

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    Zerker high heels&stockings when?
     
  9. Peisinoe

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    Don't be silly.... can't wear heels with a tutu.... :D
     
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    Cardiel Disglair DarkKnight NA

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    I genuinely love how this is reaching for undisputable justification. Everything from pedophilia to health concerns.
     
  11. Safka

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    Strangely, I don't have a fantasy of women milking cows in high heels... thanks... I just don't feel it offensive or wildly inappropriate for a woman to be milking a cow in high heels in a fantasy game. Perhaps you are confused by the use of the word 'fantasy.'

    That said, even if I did fantasise about be-heeled milkmaids... if that's what lifts my skirt, turns my windmill, launches my boat... what's it to you? Take your moralising puritanism elsewhere.

    For the record, my fantasy is to watch Jupiter slowly turn beneath me from orbit... or to experience Mycenaean life, briefly. High-heels would not be obligatory in either scenario but I'm open to the concept.

    So wearing high-heels is damaging to health? Swords more so, methinks. And now you equate high-heels in BDO to the porn industry?

    Your arguments are nonsensical. And you know it. Avvaguddun.
     
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    Silowyi Wizard NA

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    As much I have disagree with you in the past and came about a little to harsh on you for it {and for that I apologize}, I have to agree with you on this one. The majority of these MMOs or video games in general, represent women in a very bad way. Yes, it is a fantasy game but what kind of fantasy are we trying to accomplish? Female characters are a few pixels away from being naked and thats just perversion. Plain and simple. Most of these guys wont see it that way becasue this is what they like, this is how they fulfill their fantasies. If you ask in game all the female characters you see, if they are real male players, you will see most of them are infact male. And yes they will give you the "But this female character is stronger" and such. But I see how they talk about them specially in guild chats. This is in fact a perverted world we live in.

    unfortunately this is the kind of stuff we have allow developers to give us, and this is what we will get.
     
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  14. nolasigns

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    I'm confident there were several designs developed over the years to accommodate the advancements of Armour, and weaponry, but as far as my own personal experience have more so seen that they were basically dull, but still very effective because of momentum, even more so than the war-hammers because of the beveled edges covering smaller areas equates to all that energy focal to the edge's contact, versus a hammer that covered more wider area per square inch, distributing the impact in a more broader.

    Some of the demonstrations they were doing at that conference I mentioned totally made sense to me on several things. Really wasn't centered around sharpness of weaponry, though, as most anything ever dug up i've seen, even in short swords, were as sharp as a machete you could get at the local hardware- lol- what was interesting to see first hand is how warriors of those times actually handled such huge weapons. The maneuverability means more than the size of the handler. I, like most anyone assumed that those that used weapons of disproportionate sizes were themselves huge, but this aspiring anthropologist young man that I towered over by about 4-5 inches, and outweighed by at least 50 lbs, sure gave me a whole new respect for those weapons and the handlers of those eras. The kid made that sword dance, 100 feet across an indoor platform, never missing a target, or a footstep.
     
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  15. ClearArrow

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    I wear my favourite black high heels every day to work in the office so of course I like that my in game chars wear them too. Thanks for sharing your subjective opinion I guess, but I don't fancy it.

    Edit: Back to the shadows laughing into my popcorn XD This thread is entertaining as hell :D
     
  16. Peisinoe

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    I'd like to see him en pointe
     
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    GreyRebel DarkKnight 62 EU

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    Thank you
     
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  18. nolasigns

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    Women in real life are only a handful of cotton threads from being nude. Men, and even women, or whatever assumed gender binary ******** is out there, still can appreciate the beauty those handful of cotton threads do to enhance the already existing beauty that can pull it off.
     
  19. Capitaine Courage

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    We had arguments on other subjects, but on this one, I agree with Julio.
    And Julio knows a lot about women.

    Some stuff in this game are totally out of place, be it fantasy or not.
     
  20. Safka

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    OK. I'll bite while I wait for my pizza delivery.

    The majority of these MMOs or video games in general, represent women in a very bad way.​

    'Bad' is subjective. 'Very bad' even more so. According to what standards? Who decides those standards? Is the way women are represented in-game substantially different to the way men are represented?

    Female characters are a few pixels away from being naked and thats just perversion. Plain and simple.

    There's nothing whatsoever perverted about the plain and simple, naked human form. Or even a partially-clothed female form. Or male. I might argue that the 'unfortunate' thing is that some think so... but I think I hear the doorbell.

    This is in fact a perverted world we live in.

    Oh heck. You're doomed to be surrounded by perversions wherever you go. Time for a life in an off-world colony, perhaps. Oh no, dammit... they're full of perverted replicants. So you're definitely doomed. Sorry.
     
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