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I love the frustration of Hystria/Aakman portals

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Factorial, Aug 5, 2019.

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Are Hystria/Aakman portals very good game designs?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    68 vote(s)
    79.1%
  1. NoisyBoy

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    That doesnt make any sense, btw whats wrong asking for a spot to be actually a spot and not a random tp?
     
  2. Catastigma

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    the random TP discourages casual player, allowing real gamer that Learn,Adapt,Overcomes to grind in peace with their like.

    The best grind spots should not be easy to access.

    This frustration is intentional and vital.
     
  3. Alextrazsa

    Alextrazsa Sorceress EU

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    There is a questline...for Aakman and hysteria.. You get it from the Aakman node manager..i think. (Use Google) when you finish it..you can pay a black spirit claw..and then you can choose which dungeon..
     
  4. Preslavv

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    Its much easier now to get to Sycraia, not to mention Stars end. Entrance mechanic to hystria and aakman are just outdated now.
     
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  5. NoisyBoy

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    The best spots are ap capped. Aakman and hystria are the first spots where you have to use your brain for efficient grinding. You already need sp and gs to be there. Randomness doesnt have any need here, much less when doesnt involve any effort/skill, just going through random portals until your goal
     
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  6. Foo

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    idk why they just don't put some aakman or hystria npcs around the portal spawns in desert
    Doesn't matter 60m would be a crazy ****ing amount of money just to teleport
     
  7. Lady Arisha

    Lady Arisha Mystic 61 EU

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    Nonsense.
    Theres absolutely no reason for portals to be random. If someone wants to grind Hystria, they will grind hystria. The portal RNG is outdated and shouldnt be exist anymore. In fact, nothing should ever be intentionally frustrating in a GAME, which you supposed to have FUN in it.

    Also extra (insert whatever you want here) points for ''real gamer'' sentence. How the hell looking for a random portal makes you a ''real gamer''? Theres nothing competitive about it and it wastes valuable time.

    Go play Forknighty please, you real gamer you.

    Its interesting tho. Some ''real gamer'' content ideas here;
    Competitive Portal Searching
    Portal ESports
    Portal Battleroyale
    Learn, Adapt and Overcome the RNG Portals
     
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  8. Sheky

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    Like most things in this game, the basic ground work is there, but it's not thought out.

    They should've tied it to knowledge acquired about the area. Like if you get enough knowledge, you can see where the portals are, and reveal your location in the desert on the map. Same thing for active fishing, more knowledge you have about the fish and a particular stretch of ocean, you should see your location as well as get more hints where the next hot spots are. Such wasted potential.
     
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  9. Luxea

    Luxea Ranger 63

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    Just put a non-rng entrance somewhere like a normal OW dungeon. The RNG portals dont serve much purpose.
     
  10. Alterist

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    Both of them already have physical entrances, which they would have to just unblock.
     
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  11. dobe

    dobe Lahn 60

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    I'm lost here are you talking about Portal the game?!
     
  12. Boink

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    Just get a Dine horse and ride around pilgrim's haven. I find a portal in less than 1 minute. The right one is the question...

    They need to add a unique identifier for the portals to either tell if it's Aakman or Hystria.
     
  13. rootborn

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    [​IMG]

    EZ! have 3 for u boiz! (non of them worked)
     
  14. Factorial

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    I really like your doom and gloom attitude. It sounds like the ravings of a low tier villain.

    You are the same chap you got angry when people suggested auto-grinding. When they introduced auto-grind with training dummies, you shut your mouth. You said it would ruin the game because it's lazy. BDO is still going strong.

    When people asked for dungeons, you cried and told people to go play WoW. When AoB and Savage Rift before that were introduced, you shut your mouth. You said dungeons would ruin BDO. Look, BDO is still running strong.

    Every time a suggestion is conceived to IMPROVE the game, you come running, pregnant with pitchforks and touches, shoveling out the same trite, condescending, insipid tripe nonsense of "it's ruining the gaming industry" or "it's lazy," etc., until ad nauseum.

    Your attitude is completely cancerous. You are wrong, and you keep being wrong. If it was up to you, end game gear would still be +15 gear because you are incapable of actually thinking outside of a two-micron radius from your nose.

    You keep spewing this nonsense about people being "lazy" as if video games were anything but the personification of laziness. Let me help you out bro: video games are all about being lazy. We aren't splitting atoms here, we aren't curing diseases, we aren't creating millennium math solutions. We are all being lazy.

    Just because people want to improve the game does not mean it equates to laziness. Get out of your closed-minded hypocrisy: video games are the embodiment of laziness.
     
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  15. Catastigma

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    BDO is still alive cause all these *New* *content*/feature are a faillure. Rng was with me.
    Savage Rift/Altar are already dead content. And AFK dummy are less efficient that Mirumok leeching.

    My Attitude is not cancerious. I am not the one that And Take out my credit card at the slightest difficulty.
    The difficulty and the frustration, I embrace it and adapt to it.
    I am not the one who encourages the abuse of micro-transaction and P2W/lootbox.


    Casualisation is not improvement.
    If people want a return back 15 years. At the mmo genre there is a reason.
    That all * improvement * was harmful.

    Awakening weapon was a mistake.
    I do not believe it, I know it.
     
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  16. 2Cents

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    @Catastigma is absolutely wrong about the portal issue. People are asking for the RNG destination to be removed, not to port directly to the dungeon from a town or something more "casualizing".

    However, many of the other points are correct. The game should always leave people struggling to achieve goals. There is little value in being handed things. In a fair system without RNG obtaining a PEN item after months of work would feel rewarding. In contrast winning an instant PEN or buying it wouldn't have the same impact.

    AFK leveling is trash for a live game like BDO. That doesn't mean it's player base will immediately disappear. There are plenty of terrible things ongoing all the time, but the real equation is much more complex then that.

    If you isolate AFK leveling though and test if it's "good for MMORPG" the answer is NO.
     
  17. Vanadiel

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    You cannot do any content in those areas unless you are a dedicated player, because of the AP/DP requirements.
    So your argument goes out of the window.
    All the other grind spots in this game do not have a RNG entry mechanic.

    It's supposed to be a game, something you do for fun.
    It's no supposed to be a frustrating "mechanic" like these random entry portals. Or jump puzzles for that matter.
    They really have to put the fun back in BDO instead of smothering it.
     
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  18. Catastigma

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    My fun come from the sucess of something Frustrating.
    Dieing hundred of time from a boss from Dark sousl, learn, adapt, sucesss= Pleasure.
    trying to get to Hystria.
    Learn ( That this positioned portal is not a Hystria one)
    Adapt ( Find another/switch channel )
    Sucesss ( finaly get a Hystria portal)


    Frustration It's a challenge against yourself. When you get through, Fun and pleasure is terribly good.
    [​IMG]

    Rng give alot of fun, casinos exist for giving fun with Game.

    Money has nothing to do with fun. That I play card with my friends. or casinos with pennies. The pleasure is always there. Playing at UNO, 31, troudecul.
    Monopoly. snake ladder and pretty much every society game and Videogame.
     
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  19. Purr

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    lol and the afk fishers who buy their gear? dedicated player? i know quite a few people who are full tet that they paid for via afk fishing dedicated
    ? no just time consuming my witch is full tri boss gear paid for by fishing any player an go there given enough time dedication has nothing to do with if u can or cant go to a grind spot
     
  20. Vanadiel

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    Those 2 areas cannot be soloed with tri boss gear. Try it, see what happens. Those 2 areas are designed for high end PVE players. They should not be gated behind a random entry system.
     
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