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I want play this game and have some question.

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by MindaugasR, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. robertthebard

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    Yep. However, I addressed those comments directly to you, instead of "talking about you behind your back" as it were. So yeah, I was pretty straight forward about it, instead of trying to be all "back stabby".

    This makes about as much sense as your nonsense about the crafting system somehow being different after the tutorial...
     
  2. Ben Phoenix

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    It wasn't to me and there's nothing shady or stabby about my comment, it's there, visible to you too or did I open a private conversation and talked about you while you had no clue? Stop trying to look like a victim.
     
  3. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    How does any of that change the fact, all of those inconveniances in both games can be alleviated via the cash shop?

    Your tolerance of "Korean grinders" is whats making this industry what it is. Devs that create casinos first, business models second in the form of PTW/PTC, then content and balance around driving people to the cash shop..With a distant fourth being what looks like a game, with no balance what so ever, cause if you want that..they sell exchange coupons for the next flavor of the month class for real money.

    If your not concerned with time, and inconvenience mechanics, then Rappalez monetization method shouldnt bother you, nor will this games...You just enjoy PTW/PTC games, and dodging the cash shop..nothing wrong with that .
     
  4. Fearless V

    Fearless V Lahn 61 NA

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    I think the only legitimate question that remains is.

    ~Does it matter if or not BDO is P2W/P4C?~

    Outside of that nothing should matter to you. I see so many trying to convince the gaming world at large that BDO is indeed not P2W or P4C. Why in the first place does it matter, to these selected people what others think?

    I find it funny some of these people get so invested on how OTHERS procieve BDO or any other Korean MMO for that matter. Almost to the point you'd nearly think, they are the con artist staff that made the game.
     
  5. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Im going off your knowledge of your PTW game, that has the same inconveniences as this one....
    You said you have to hop scotch gear, and it takes along time to do so to avoid the cash shop, well with this games you have to do the same, make a backup, before you proceed, then spend months getting your FS back if your not gonna cron it...other wise, consider the downgrade, your item going poof, and getting replaced with something inferior. In rappalez all you had to do was repair it..here, you may never get back to tet.
     
  6. robertthebard

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    Step back. I'm not the one wailing about how much money I've had to spend in the CS, I haven't spent any, and made it pretty clear that I don't plan on it. You, on the other hand, have made it abundantly clear how you plan to alleviate your gearing woes. So I'd say it's more people like you that are the problem. "I'd gear up normally, but it takes too long". This has been your battle cry throughout the thread, and frankly, in other threads as well. In swtor, you get coins for the CS for maintaining a sub, and yet, even with those, I don't buy the loot boxes.

    I haven't felt the need to come in the thread and attempt to mislead anyone with things like "wait until you're out of the tutorial, you'll see", as if the crafting system suddenly changes once you reach a certain level, instead of remaining the same all the way through. I haven't come here trying to claim that people would rather buy items from the CS to fix broken gear, than equip their failed enchant, and go get more stuff to try again by actually playing the game. These are all you. So I'm left wondering, how long into this conversation did we actually surpass your knowledge of the game?
     
  7. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    I dont have any knowledge of rappalez, aside from what you told me, when you claimed it as PTW, and this one not.

    My point has always been..what does it matter? It doesent look like you want to compete, and PTW portian of the game only applies to the folks that do.

    They have the PTC side of monetization for the rest.

    I enjoy this game, just as much as you...and if they ever get around to fixing my class, or make something else that tickles my fancy, Ill go grind some more overtime at work, and continue progressing again.
     
  8. robertthebard

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    So now you've chosen to misrepresent the players based on your own experience? You see, it doesn't have anything to do with "not wanting to compete" and everything to do with "I don't throw good money at bad". If I buy gear off the MP, it will be with silver that I earned in game, the old fashioned way, by grinding it out, not through hitting my wallet. I'd go on about how many years I'd be willing to play to get it, but with things like Cyberpunk 2077 upcoming, I can't. I do love my RPGs, and I will drop everything to play a new one. However, I don't care if it takes a month, a year, or a couple of years, if I can get my gear in game, I will. Since we've already established that it's possible, if lengthy, then I don't have to worry about having to drop cash on it, I can just play, and do my upgrades as I get the materials to do so.
     
  9. robertthebard

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    Woah, there spanky, no victim here. You left our dialog, and then decided to take a cheap shot. It's a pretty crap thing to do, but, since you seem to be comfortable with it, I'm going to have to go with "this is just who you are". Things get too deep, you run away, and then take pot shots when you think you're out of earshot. It's fine, really, I know people just like you out here in the real world.
     
  10. Ben Phoenix

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    Holy **** the drama.

    Fine for me too, I know people like you out there too so what?
     
  11. robertthebard

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    No, judging by this exchange, I don't think you do. If you did, we wouldn't be having it. You see, my initial reply to this was a "what the hell man, I gave you your space, what's up with this" kind of thing. If you'd have just said "Yep", I'd have laughed it off and went on.
     
  12. Ben Phoenix

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    Seriously, you should stop here before it gets ridiculous.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Its just as possible here, as in rappalez. What part of that do you keep failing to understand?
    People who take breaks and leave know what there coming back to, like me. You have never done that yet...When you do, hit us back up.
     
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  14. robertthebard

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    ...and now we're back to "but crafting is different later", or more accurately "upgrading gear is different at different levels". The system won't change, it will still function exactly as it does whether you're level 5 in Velia, or 70 something. Going from +7 to +8 will not make a weapon unusable if it fails here, I know, I failed one twice in a row, and could still use it. That is not the same thing as "I failed going from +7 to +8, and now have to buy an erepair so I can fix my gear. If I don't, I can't use it at all". You're struggling awfully hard with this concept.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    ...Why are you even here instead of progressing? See I'm at the point where if I actively play, ill just blow up more gear, so its beneficial to just afk, since Im not spending anymore money till they fix some things, and my Central markets full of things waiting to be collected once my Value pack pre order goes through...its been 3 months.

    ...Whats your excuse? Goals 270 AP sheet, not counting any gems, or buffs. Go get there.
     
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  16. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    mind you, game doesnt become all sunshine and rainbows when u reach that number. u kill faster, but unless u r one of the select classes you die like a grass beetle in pvp if u dont have considerable dp bracket to back it up.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Yea this is true. Which is why id recommend to the OP, he starts on the console servers....At least that way, its like a fresh start, and his first year or so, will be enjoyable if competition is a factor.

    Spending $100+ there, vs here, you get far more bang for your buck, and can see results.
     
  18. robertthebard

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    I'm here when I'm having my morning coffee, or when it's time to eat, since I have to do all my own cooking, or when I need a break from grinding, or, as today, when I have an appointment, and there's no sense in getting too involved in anything. You know, the standard reason why not angry at the game gamers will browse the forums.
     
  19. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Never claimed you were angry at the game, we both enjoy it..But quit wasting time here...go, grind.
    Its gonna be awhile to get to...well, where ever it is your going. If your not gonna pony up the dough, may as well start on the time gates the devs put in the progression algorithm.
     
  20. zhagsten

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    This topic is so dead because people are debating over a definition and not about the issue itself. But...

    Thanks for the laugh! XD

    Good luck in the game! Take your time, BDO is a great game that doesn't require any cash shop purchase when you just wander around and look at the trees. Can't pay to win 'cause you're already winning!
     

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