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Issue with Node Tax Collection

Discussion in 'News & Announcements' started by PM Horizon, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. Unranked

    Unranked Unranked Striker 64 EU

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    usually they just remove the silver and put the item back in the cm for those people that sold to the criminals
     
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  2. BaeBladeLUL

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    Clever use of game mechanics. Kekekekek. But seriously, how in the world did this even manage to happen? Seems like one screw up after another.
     
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  3. hukkari

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    Servers are still up=no roll back=the money that went into the market will stay there.
     
  4. Graugus

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    At this point, does it really matter? Let them keep the money and let them keep all the **** they purchased off the marketplace. If there is no one to QA/QC test the stuff coded in the game before they put it out then whatever has been gained through this action should be kept.

    Frankyl, I'm really tired of seeing people getting policed for their **** ups in the game.

    Let them keep their 200 billion payouts.
     
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  5. Frascy

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    Frankly, You're part of the problem. Just because a company ****s up something the bad people should profit from it and the guys who were honest and fair, should pay for it right? They will for sure not profit from the crashed market and getting killed by players with boosted equipment...

    Please use your brain before you post something and think of others as well..
     
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  6. Sadalsuud

    Sadalsuud Tamer 62 EU

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    I see what you mean, but... No. Even with the biggest mistake possible, you can't encourage players in trying their luck, above all when the mistake is so obvious.

    Devs have to be careful, but players have to be responsible. You mention the idea of getting policed, but players themselves shouldn't be considered as irresponsible kids.
     
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    but that still leaves trillions of silver left in the game economy
     
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  8. Claydough

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    if accounts have been closed, why is the mp still down?

    nvm literally just went up lol
     
  9. LittleE

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    If you fail to keep that much money from unnaturally flooding the central market then the NA server will die.
     
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  10. Unranked

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    we arent talking 200billion here we are talking 200 trillion payout more in that ballpark
     
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  11. Graugus

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    This is my point. If they don't give a ****, especially with people paying real money for progression in the game, I say let it burn. I'm wondering if it was not for people posting videos and threads if they would have even known about this? That's how far the developers are from their audience in BDO.

    They too busy worrying about making the next "HIGH-HEEL" class, finding new ways to get into your your pocket books or finding new ways to retard progression to worry about people getting 27-200 billion guild payouts through their **** ups.

    Unil the developers get their priorities straight the game won't be, if you get my drift.
     
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  12. afurolol

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    @PM Horizon
    Protip to whoever is going to investigate this shitshow: remember to check all transported items, wagons stored in stables, characters being transported, ship storages, tent storages, 2000 pearl storage bags, EVERYTHING.
    There are so many ways in the game to hide everything you bought with the "cheated" silver which investigators can't find.

    ps. if you don't cap the nodetax, it's going to be abused in the future as well by just repeatedly liberating nodes by coalition of guilds and then collecting when a nice amount is reached.
     
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  13. Graugus

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    I'm talking about individual payouts through mail. If the funds stay unused in the bank they can fix this **** up easily. Once it goes out through guild payouts it becomes an advanced, and convoluted problem, that they have to sit down and figure out how to fix without further destroying the community they trying to keep/build up in the game.
     
  14. Graugus

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    It won't be that in depth. People will still be bragging on how they ****ed over the system and got pen items out the deal just like with the diggers, mapping, Heidel amity weapon, mapping stuff they previously caught or didn't catch. At the end of the day, they just don't care.
     
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  15. Daylend

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    Yes, let's let 50 quadrillion silver leak into the market in increments of 10 trillion silver per WEEK (2 trillion payouts (before taxes) per guild).
    That sounds like a GREAT idea. It definitely won't make silver effectively useless, rendering the market completely unusable. Good thinking!
     
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  16. Ashaara

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    Aww Shesh, Here we go again. The most acclaimed exploitable MMORPG at its best
     
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  17. Unranked

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    im talking about individual payout aswell, and yes that will be trillions. if that leaked screenshot would be paid out, 40% of that divided over 90 people equally will still be 100 trilllion for every single person in that guild. this is enough to buy full pen including pen fallen god and still have 80% of your first payout left. virtually infinite money. EDIT: more like 27till because I forgot about payout tax but still plenty to buy everything you need, multiple times
     
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  18. Daylend

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    @PM Horizon
    Something to keep in mind when deciding if players should be punished...

    The game has a limit on the maximum amount of silver that can be paid out at once (around 2 trillion silver). GMs who tried to pay out with such a large amount of funds (several quadrillion), weren't able to pay out. In order to properly pay out members, GMs first had to intentionally reduce their guild funds to an amount that the server would accept. For example, you could buy billions of juice, or put a bid on a guild house for an obscene amount of money.

    What I'm trying to say is there is a 0 chance for negligence here. Any actions taken by GMs were intentional as it was impossible to "accidentally" pay out their members. Common sense tells you that quadrillions of silver is not normal, and neither is seeing negative numbers on the payout amounts to each individual member, let alone manipulating those numbers to force the game to payout billions of silver.

    It's also probably really obvious, but check to make sure nobody is hoarding juice, or other guild items, to sell off at a later date.

    Thanks and good luck.
     
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    They have no logs! They proved this with the mappers! They go on what partners or people tell them. This is why you have to fill in a ticket for everything. They prob found this latest exploit/issue out because someone (who heard it from a player who got the payout) ticketed it.

    I doubt there will be any bans, just money deleted. But like others have said if items were bought off the market place with that money then it's a needle in a haystack! If guilds did a payout knowing they had this much money then the person who made the payout should get his/her account banned surely?
     
  20. Haxxing

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    They could give everyone 27bil payouts to make it fair and then no one needs to get banned.
     
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