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It finally happened! (humble brag, sorry)

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Digi_Assassin, Aug 30, 2019.

  1. DarkGG

    DarkGG Darkiee DarkKnight 62 NA

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    It is pretty sad, but so true this game has grown to much of an afk simulator.
     
  2. LinaCrysta

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    That's a choice,you can make much more silver by active playing.but choices are a good thing! mean anybody can progress even if they have a busy life and really likes the game.Just because the game as the option for afk things it does not invalidate active play at all.Some people do a lot of afk,bit of active,some balance the both,some do a lot of active and a tiny of afk.Choices are good
     
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  3. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    the real sad part is someone wanking afk can get rng carried and make mroe gear than the guy actively playing the game for hours daily. THAT is the real issue of this game.

    and look at this thread and its congratulations. its basically congrating on winning the lottery, as it sure isnt something achieved by hard work or measurable effort ;D
     
  4. 2Cents

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    It is a torn issue of wanting to congratulate someone for an achievement that isn't easy to obtain. However, it is very problematic to "congratulate" someone for being AFK and getting lucky as you stated.

    It's not congratulations, you worked hard for months and where determined and achieved (x). You simply clicked a button.

    Everything in the game has become that way. Congrats you reached level 63!!!! ............... How long did you have to AFK for that?

    It's got so bad that people are going back to games 15-25 years ago when they developers DID IT RIGHT. It's not just Classic WoW, many others have done the same thing. What gamers are really looking for is the challenge, slower leveling, and older systems.
     
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  5. 2Cents

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    Not true at all: Any free/AFK reward devalues the point of actively playing the game. This isn't up for debate it's a simple proven concept. The effects are clear. When a fishing event occurs there is a massive shift in player activity. Even seeing someone achieved PEN from simply being AFK is a huge deterrent for other players. Asking them to spend potentially 100's or even 1,000's of hours for the same task isn't taken lightly.

    The path of least resistance is a factor. If I can obtain good results with little/no effort I will be less inclined to put any effort in.
     
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  6. Ashaara

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    The game always was a afk simulator even at start! Grinding mobs is also a brain afk activity. And..... thats actually all what this game has to offer. Or are you someone who actually likes the storytelling of this game? Lol
     
  7. Factorial

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    A win for the good guys.
     
  8. Boink

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    Wow yeah let's blame only "AFK" in an event that happens every year. Termian event doesn't even beat normal grinding it just increase what players rake AFK-wise compare to other alternatives.... Let's also point out why WOW one of the strongest MMO franchise with millions of loyal followers and compare it to BDO to make a point.

    The cost per PEN attempt is about 24m-ish without using artisans and 8m-ish with artisans. Is that really a game changer?
     
  9. Factorial

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    Oh this is a good one
     
  10. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    he is not wrong, if u wallet cron the attempts ;D
     
  11. 2Cents

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    Seems like you "conveniently" forgot to mention 100 other AFK/Hand outs. Nothing recent though.......... oh wait Black Spirit (Click once per hour) just went permanent. I see you mentioned the Event Based accessories, oh wait you didn't do that either. Surely you mentioned the changes to fishing so everyone can AFK much longer. Oh oops you forgot that too. Maybe you where going to point out the upcoming life skill system. Oh look again you must have over looked that.

    Is PEN really a game changer? What is life? Where am I? Who am I? So many question so few answers.

    You know what is a game changer? I failed a 50/50 trying to get Asula Necklace for the quest. I then failed it again, and again, and again. Just bad luck! Amiright!. Even while there where no financial transactions in this upgrade process, it was a frivolous waste of my time.

    It was annoying. Mainly because I know why that system was in place. I was dealing with a byproduct of the gambling P2W mechanics. There was no reason to throw RNG like this into a quest.
     
  12. LinaCrysta

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    I meant it as it does not invalidate it because active play gives a bigger amount of reward than afk.While people were afk fishing on the event I was grinding doing 5x+ the amount they did in an hour,i only fished on the nights.Im the kind of players that active plays a ton and barely does any afk activity.I would have a mayor problem if for example they did an afk activity that gave 150+m an hour consistently with barely any investment or effort like fishing then id agree.But that is not the case.Active plays yields more resources,resources ya either use to buy gear or enhance them yourself.and THAT is fact.

    I don't have a problem with there being ways to progress in the game that are semi passive or passive,as long as those don't yield more RAW resources than active playing.Because some people have more busy lives than others and like mmorpg's like these.And more people having acess to progress in the game is good.I don't mind the op getting her pen,its a game with rng on enhances after all.So good for her. and grats again.And im the kind of person that hates their effort being devalued as time passes in a mmorpg and I don't mind such things.I have more of a bone against straight out p2w than such things
     
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    Ok the OP posted he hit his PEN at 140 FS grats on him. He could had those stacks looong before he made his statement regarding "2 months of AFK".

    Regarding PEN as a game changer i'm talking about the price of the attempt... it is not a lot. The hard part is failing it.


    He never said he accumulated all those stacks within the 2 month period. He just said he finally hit his PEN at 140 fs. I been holding on a 198 FS and a 130 FS for about 4 months now.

    The cost of the PEN Boss attempt is exactly as is. Let's also consider how easy it is now to get failstacks using greens by using my amazing guide listed in the guide section (yes shameful advertisement).
     
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    It is weird how the mentality of BDO players compare to regular casino players.

    In a casino, when I gamble and hit the jackpot a lot of people congratulate me. I'm sure there are hidden spite and anger towards me. Maybe it's envy but they don't show it.

    In BDO when I post something that shows my gains (without paying to win of course). I get down-voted to oblivion. Maybe it's because the internet can hide the true identify of an individual and they can be "true" to themselves. It's weird lol.

    The Casino rationale is that we are all against the house. Why can't it be the same in BDO's "house"?
     
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    It won't make that much of a difference. Need that 280+ap to compete. 269 is pretty decent depending on the class.

    That's the issue with RNG. The game gets to decide if you deserve that item or not. Doesn't matter if you worked harder or little for it. That is what makes the progression system so unbearable and disgusting. I was 0/22 on pen while my friend was 2/19. That's super motivational.....
     
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  16. Foo

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    Yup just watched 6 failed TET accessories disappear and another 6 failed attempts on blackstar gf all those hours wasted
     
  17. LiquidEmotion

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    At some point you need to ask yourself if it's worth it. I was struggling with just getting ONE pen item. Every week my efforts would disappear right in front of my face. Even if I got the pen item it wouldn't have made my gameplay experience any better or different. I'd be happy for a day or two but then its just off to the next piece of gear. The same hamster wheel....
     
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  18. Foo

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    Well I basically failed my blackstar 6 times and just thought **** it yoloed and now I'm here 15b down or so Lul

    Ngl I completely forgot how tilting and ******** this game can be but I do think I'm gonna take a break after that lmao
     
  19. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    i know people with more pen successes than fails, your friend is unlucky compared to them and by a long shot.
     
  20. Mana_Mafia

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    Congratulations certainly. Achievement? Uh....I don't know about that. Is luck an achievement?
     

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