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KAKAO - Player information, must read.

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by DheReaper, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. DheReaper

    DheReaper Ranger 62 EU

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    As i keep seeing so many posts that KAKAO added x or y in game ....

    For all ignorants who only cry about KAKAO or KASHCOW or how do you keep calling this publisher here is the info you need to know so you won't sound like a kid for other players :
    Kakao only have the rights to publish the game . They have no rights to edit not even 1 bit of the game . They only publish the game , they cannot change anything in the game or add anything in the game .

    So let's see how many people we will see after this day that keeps blaming Kakao for something ...
     
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  2. Information

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    They are our publisher, I don't care if they signed a contract where they do not have any decision power, this is NOT my problem but their. They are our communication channel, so if we are not happy with the game, it's their fault and not PA's actually, because they made a lot of promises that they couldn't deliver.
    When you have an issue with your new pair of nikes, who do you contact, nike or the chinese children that made it ?
     
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  3. Rayin

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    You should rename it in "Player Misinformation, i'm trolling you".
    There are tons of laws that protect a "Developer" and its creative work, but there are again thousand of laws that give power to a Publisher to terminate a service or have a say in what the developer is doing, because they are investors.
    If Windows wants to rent an alternative Os that doesn't compete directly with Windows to an external agency, something that they made taking the leftovers of some previous Windows versions that were considered not-so-Windows-alike, that new Os that we're going to call "Doors xD" has to respect the standards imposed by that external agency.
    In no way they can release updates that are going to change completely what "Doors xD" is or ruin - even partially - the public image of the Publisher because their "creativity" makes them decide that their task bar can be unlocked only if you pay for it or that to use the native Paint Brush you must pay 0.20 cents or else every other installed program like Photoshop won't be installed in that operative system.

    There are literally tons of laws that are there to preserve the creativity of the Developer as long as it doesn't cause any sort of damage for the publisher.
    Knowing that, do you think that after those changes Kakao became more popular among its customers? probably investors are happier than ever because their stocks increased as price, but no person that plays with the Market Stocks bothers to know how those companies make their profits and how beloved are as they just look at money.
    So does Kakao, they just don't care to be loved or hated as long as they get money.
    Assuming that they have very little to say in PA doing, as you say, they can still do something. In no way they have not even a minimum control of what PA sends them or decide.
    They can't probably decide to create a content of their own if PA doesn't want, like Dungeons, Glittering Wings that give passive stats or mounts that do not fit in BDO lore such as Pandas, but certainly they have something to say in regard of what is coming in the Cash Shop or which items can destroy the economy or the appeal of this game.

    Thanks, we really needed another DheReaper post with no content but only "Hurr durrs" in it to delight our days.
     
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    I feel the P2W got pushed in the middle of the contract renewal negotiations tbh.
     
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  5. United_Strafes

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    The irony of calling people ignorant and stupid kids after typing this nearly incomprehensible sentence is hilarious.
     
  6. ambyentlight

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    Wow such a heroic whiteknight post I think Kakao should give you a medal.

    Rofl acting like a publisher has zero tasks to do, when really Kakao does not do the **** its surpost to do such as uphold the TOS and ban hackers/botters/exploiters and they are also surpost to communicate with Pearl Abyss on our behalf and there is zero evidence they do that.

    Each week Kakao does say this to Pearl Abyss:

    "Greetings Pearl Abyss its your boy Kakao speaking and I would like to say that the entire NA/EU region playerbase are happy with the game, so please keep up the good work :D Peace out".
     
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  7. DheReaper

    DheReaper Ranger 62 EU

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    Kakao have contract to publish the game only . Learn to read contracts maybe ?
     
  8. Shichi88

    Shichi88 Striker NA

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    Why arent you playing bless? You were pretty much up their rear end. Hmmm.
     
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  9. ManlyBeard

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    Have you actually read their contract?
     
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    With an opening post like this, he probably was in the room when it was signed rofl
     
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  11. Kn0xxPT

    Kn0xxPT Striker 62 EU

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    Its no secret that PA respected EU/NA/KAKAO between 2016/2017 more than it is now 2018, by the simple fact that PA is doing sooo muchh money with BDO Mobile.
    2016/2017 PA had to respect KAKAO requests ( like no Valks, no outfit Melting ) because ...back then Kakao was the 56% of PA's revenue...
    And they needed the money to develop BDO Mobile, and for their own suprise, it surpassed BDO PC revenue, doing 81% of direct income to PA.

    When PA realized that BDO Mobile(example of their own management) is their moneycow, they started taking actions and decisions by themselves.

    The contract with Russia with be transfered to PA, and so ( in my theory ) KAKAO will have no license also when it expires, making PA the Publisher(using kakao staff) and Developer for EU/NA, getting revenue directly ...

    The contract with Publishers always..gives the Developers full control over the when, why and how... Developers are always protected.
     
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    Is the contract between Kakao and Pearl Abyss even public?
    Because as far as i know there are different contracts between devs and publishers, some contracts can allow the publishers to have a say in the game development while some others, do not.


    Oh my, you are so clueless and misinformed.
    Do you have any source for anything you just said? If not, then stop spreading lies.

    And about the very last thing you said, LOL, can you say that to the face to all the ruined dev studios that EA bought? Devs often get screwed over when give some autority to the publishers.

    Notice on how all the successful games are all sefl-hosted by the devs.
     
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  13. FrozenReaper

    FrozenReaper Archer 62 EU

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    so kashcow just lies to customer and you are fine with it...
    thats pretty fcked up, if you ask from me
     
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    Ikr like how the **** can someone defend a company that dosent even follow its own TOS by banning hackers/exploiters/botters?

    Even if they cant detect this stuff there are many things posted on youtube by these cheaters that show fam name and all and yet Kakao removes some vids but the cheater never gets anything more than a 72 hour ban.
     
  15. JM

    JM Tamer 62 NA

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    ...... thanks for the PSA. As though Kakao has nothing to do with monetization in NA/EU..... aren't responsible for banning cheaters/exploiters.... and most importantly, aren't suppose to be our communication channel. You're the hero Kakao needs and certainly doesn't deserve.
     
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    Kashcow.
    There.
     
  17. DheReaper

    DheReaper Ranger 62 EU

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    No , i just read the type of contract he signed and there is only 1 contract of that type . They help Pearl Abyss to publish game in EU / NA and this is all what they can do .
    It takes 20 minutes to find everything about the contract they signed .
     
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    Hm..... and you call others toxic?!

    You do realize that Kakao have stated that localization (fancy word for translations) are up to them...... right? RIGHT?

    As they have stated this themselves, which goes against what you are trying to troll.

    WTF happened to trolls now a days? No effort at all.
     
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    Frazan Kunoichi 62 EU

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    More or less owned by anyone saying that Kakao is to blame. Served.
     

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