Hi all, I am a person who does not pvp so I never had much of an opinion about the karma issue but I do now after an experience I had and here it is! Today I had a level 50 alt go red (with the help of a friend who had their alt get PKed so I wouldn't have to kill a billion horses). Mind this is a never played, 0% exp character made purely to farm energy potions for my main. While moving this character from Heidel to Altinova - doing nothing but running on the road - it got PKed 5 times by random people. Now again as this was a character with nothing in their inventory and 0% exp, I can't say that it bothers me that they get PKed. However, if you consider the facts, that means this character was PKed by every single player they met, for no other reason than because they were able to do so without consequences. In other words, every single person I ran into within those 10 minutes was the kind of person who'll PK a nude level 50 just for existing. I have to assume if karma penalties were not as severe as they are, these people would be PKing every single low-geared player they meet in the game just because they can. To summarize, karma penalties are BDO's gun control. Thank you.