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KR News: new Main Weapon 'Tradition' mode is coming

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Keldorn, Jul 12, 2019.

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  1. Kriptoker

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    They are going to just trash the characters, compared to how they are now, with this change. Then when you see how crap they play by having skills locked out, they will hope you will run to Daddy Warbucks to get some Pearls, to re-reroll your class.
     
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  2. Dr.Virus

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    If this will be really unplanned and bad, this game will die as fast as Bless Online has died .

    If the change is not forceful and will keep you to play both preawakening and awakening then it should be ok.
     
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    Of course you’re allowed to criticize what you value in the interest of making it better. But that is not how comments are usually framed.
     
  4. Keldorn

    Keldorn Tamer EU

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    It won't. You can still play as you do today but you have more options and this is always a good thing. I'm sure good classes are still good and bad classes have more options to keep up.
     
  5. flukeSG2

    flukeSG2 Tamer 62 NA

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    That's because we are people and not robots and we often carry our emotions over to our replies and there is nothing wrong with that. If you're upset with something in the game, you're allowed to express that.
     
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  6. Grammatolo

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    I don’t think we have a disagreement, here. People vent. I was just supporting another user’s calmer take — because it stood out against the noise.
     
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  7. DarkBever

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    I'm not sure if i like this. [​IMG]
     
  8. Ned Sheynji

    Ned Sheynji Sheynji 62 EU

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    For that statement to ever be true BDO should've died before releasing Mediah 3 years ago.
     
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  9. eclesi4stik

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    BDO is not die but it's clear that BDO has lost a lots of player ... I just remember the time where all channels were crowded (and i'm not talking of Olvia's chan) and what now ? You're almost free to grind anywhere you want without someone who ask you for a duel every 2 minutes :D.

    That's a fact bdo is dying slowly but surely ;).

    Tradition system is just the perfect example of that PA has no idea where to go just with BDO, look in 3 years we had:
    - pre-awak (logic)
    - awak (logic )
    - 1st redesign with the announcement of Rabam, because awakening is too strong
    - PA gave up rabam & announce Absolute skills
    - PA redesign PvE/PvP fights in deleting most SA/FG/Iframe
    - PA add renown
    - PA delete renown
    - PA add "tradition" wep

    The other fact is in a game where you need to grind a lot to get your gear enhanced the 1st THING to do before balanced PvP is to balanced PvE where a class can farm twice and more than your class, there's a problem in the game design (they try currently to balance it, i think it's just a bit late after 4-5 years of living game).

    Honestly in my short life of gamer (since WoW vanilla) i've never played a game where you had this rythm of changes, i think they try to satisfy everybody (that's impossible! Even wow, FFIXV do not satisfy everybody), they should focus their 1st ideas or maybe they did not had that's why we have this "chaos" change, in all case that's how i sees :).
     
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  10. ghoulz666

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    You forgot the one thing that's always smooth. The gradual increase of P4C and P2W in the cash shop.
     
  11. Ned Sheynji

    Ned Sheynji Sheynji 62 EU

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    How is that clear? We have way more channels now and the world is way bigger than ever.
    Numbers suggest that the number of concurrent players doubled.

    Also -> "BDO isnt dead" and "has lost a LOT of PLAYERS"
    Thats because Pirates/Sausans are not only "good grindspots" anymore.
    Again. Where are your numbers?

    I dont see how the tradition/succession proves that PA is running dry of ideas.
    The only thing this system proves is that they arent satisfied with the direction awakening took years ago.
    And now they want people to decide for themselves if they want to awaken or stick to their pre awakening weapon.

    If you think other classes can grind double your speed then hate to break it to you but you just suck. Even if you compare the best grinder in the game to the worst one the loot difference is still not 50-100%. Worst case is like 20% loot difference.
    Also this game isnt living since 4 years. Even in KR they only scratched the 3 1/2 year mark.

    Oh i see. You are a WoW player. Now i understand.
     
  12. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    u can play your characer as it is now or opt to use the new tradition skillset. with allowed switching between those options (knowing them, via cash shop)
     
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  13. eclesi4stik

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    Ok so we are in the discrimination now ...
    WoW was popular (miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiles away than BDO) if you have some trouble with that, it's your problem. Now it seems you're a fan bdo boy, that's fine but don't be blind ;).


    You're right, it's been almost 5 years => released in december 2014 *learn to search*
     
  14. Angar

    Angar Angar Archer 61 EU

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    This massive overhaul is coming from a company that cannot even implement a single qol upgrade without ****ing it up.
    A company that broke every single promise.
    A company that cant create good bundles in their pearl shop (horse death reset anyone?)
    A company that cannot even finish one project like pvp rebalance before throwing in a new class and then stopping the project to work on pve re-balance.
    A company that cant even give us complete and proper content.

    I play bdo cause i have free time.
    I have a lot of issues with this company and their game design.
    And although i do not consider my self a hater, i always grab the chance to call them for their mistakes and crappy designs.
    I accept bdo for what it is and stay away from their casino mechanics while still enjoying what i do and progressing fast.
    I never judge content before i experience it my self on the live servers.
    BUT. And this is a first one for me, this change has me scared to death.
    Based on their past history i strongly believe they will **** things up. Hard.
    Many will leave, including me, and i hope then they will realize that what works on their shitty mobile games, is not a pointer for what will work on pc games. Cause the 2 categories are not the same.
     
  15. dobe

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    Though those numbers only concern those regions taken over by PA,for us there is no mention of player population(or i missed somthing).

    Thats an another issue,even in the case the devs do properly their job(which cannot be trusted anyway to do the job right) then you will have classes with a real choice about their PvP roles while others will only have an unique role.
     
  16. Phoenixxx75

    Phoenixxx75 Lahn 61 NA

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    It would certainly be interesting to find out just how many players will continue to play shai once they have gotten the event rewards. I for one will not be.
     
  17. eclesi4stik

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    Agreed, they already have difficulties to balance the current meta in PvP AND PvE, they tried (yes why people are talking about god tier/trash tier, only blind people can say the game is currently balanced! HE HAS NEVER BEEN!) or it's just intentional from PA to "force" player to buy coupons, weight, inventory, etc
     
  18. Keldorn

    Keldorn Tamer EU

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    Just read the text, it all there!

    For the Ranger part:
    Q. What is the difference between Black Desert Mobile's(BDM) and Black Desert Online's succession system?

    Jae-sang Joo: In BDM, if you choose to go with the succession route, you can only use succession weapons and skills. The same goes for awakening; if you choose to go with the awakening path, you're stuck with nothing but awakening weapons and skills. In BDO, however, you won't be forced to play just one of the two - you won't have to sell your awakening weapon once you take the succession route. Even if you are playing a succession character, we're planning to allow that character to take a few awakening skills and use it freely.
     
  19. Waifu_Hunter

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    yeah if i could use just one weapon that would be great, but if this system makes giant player better that would be even greater.

    I bailed already because I found PA's interpretation of bard as offensive. I'm sure plenty of people will enjoy it but it's just not my style. Awakening seems clunky, a few seconds of music and then silent playing, no protections, limited movement, three different weapons to enchant that cannot be bought or cronned that give different bonuses and it's likely buffs will be spread out to necessitate all three which to me says they're trying to sell gear bags. It's close to being great but I'm not sure it will ever really get there.
     
  20. flukeSG2

    flukeSG2 Tamer 62 NA

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    They seem intent on turning players off from playing the class with their ridiculous censorship on the costumes.

    Where are you seeing numbers that suggest this?

    NA/EU released nearly 3 1/2 years ago on March 2016 and in Korea, Japan, and Russia in 2015.
     
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