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Legal actions posts for false bans are being deleted on reddit and here

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by DGates, Mar 29, 2019.

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  1. Dudeskio

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    What a rude and ignorant thing to say from a "volunteer moderator." I have had a ton of posts deleted the last few days with NO explanation whatsoever.
     
  2. Factorial

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    Tell me again about that 100% kakao assurance rate.
     
  3. Lemon Crush

    Lemon Crush CreamLemon Witch 62 NA

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    He's not siding with the company stop being an emotional wreck.

    He's saying when you bought the game and logged in you accepted their TOS which states they own your account and can terminate its access at any time for whatever reason they want.

    No one is saying it's okay, but its what you and the rest of us agreed to. If they shut down the servers tomorrow for no real reason then that's their right as well and there's nothing you can do about it.

    This idea that you have some monetary value in an online game account is pure ignorance. You could get the same value for your money by building a bonfire and throwing dollar bills into to make it burn longer.
     
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  4. JosephJoestar

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    Just got banned today, been playing for 2 years almost and never used this forum account which I made in 2018 SINCE 2018. Perfection, not as much invested though only about £100 compared to others. Coming back from a 30 minute break, making coffee came back to log in and banned. Sent an appeal BEFORE the ban notice which has not been responded to yet, it took 2 hours before they sent their 'you have been banned' email.
     
  5. Dudeskio

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    Sorry, man, but numerous people have pointed to several lawsuits, in a few different countries, where people have won cases against game companies in federal courts for wrongful bans. Many of those posts have been deleted without explanation. There were about 6 entire pages deleted from this thread this morning. Not only that, but EU players CAN take advantage of GDPR to retrieve any personal records Kakao might own of theirs, including any logs that could be used to verify that they did or did not cheat.
     
  6. RoxiAmbrosia

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    Make sure you comment here: https://community.blackdesertonline.../banwave-update-on-follow-up-measures.428601/

    and add your information here: https://community.blackdesertonline...e-accusation-after-march-27-maintenance.425549
     
  7. Lemon Crush

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    Im not arguing that fact. I am simply making people aware they own nothing.
     
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  8. Factorial

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    Yes, we own nothing on our accounts, ad nauseum. Thanks for telling the rest of us what we already f'ing know. Would you also like to give us amazing new facts that people need oxygen to survive?

    I am waiting for you to get falsely banned next so you can tell yourself "Well, gee, I am so glad I checked the TOS for clauses saying they might ban you for no reason" then promptly f off like a happy camper. Keep talking s until it happens to you.

    No company bans anyone for no reason at all. Give me one example where a company just bans someone for the reason of "no reason."

    All bans are given for a reason, period. Here, the reason was cheating/using cheat software, but come to find out that those accusations were made up. People got banned because of lies and errors. These folks weren't just banned because of "no reason." Not even, they were banned on lies, errors, and falsehood.

    Instead of having a concern that you could lose your account, your hours, your money at any moment, you want to just reiterate how kakao can run around with impunity.

    What annoys me about the incompetence of people as the above, is that you see one iota of the data that supports your narrative, while ignoring the bigger and more glaring issue.
     
  9. JosephJoestar

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  10. Yulanda

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    Anyone who is throwing around the ToS as some iron clad contract is at this point being deliberately ignorant. Statutory Consumer Laws within different countries can not be diminished by a ToS.

    They can and do have the right to close their servers, should they cease service, and people will have no recourse, but where the service is available and functioning, to remove access for illegitimate reasons is an entirely different matter.

    I dislike people who come on forums to deliberately be salty for no good reason or to cause trouble, but I'm also as unimpressed by sycophants and people incapable of taking a balanced view.

    There are more than likely people on here complaining about the ban wave who legitimately deserve to be banned and are trying to ride the coat tails of those who have wrongly been banned, but those people who should not have had their accounts revoked deserve access to useful information, not just to be told "ToS so screw you hippies"
     
  11. Ben Phoenix

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    Hmm ok, so, I read the ToS carefully and yes, they can premanently ban you if they find you guilty of cheating but of course, they have to be sure that you were really cheating... I mean, if you weren't, you can always try to prove the opposite and get your account unbanned...
     
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  12. Yulanda

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    Yeah, I don't think anyone is arguing that people shouldn't get perma-banned if they are caught cheating. They bring the game down for everyone and contribute negatively to complex situations like this mess
     
  13. Wickster

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    I posted that AFTER my threads kept getting deleted. In hopes that someone would be able to read it before it disapears... so thats not the reason why my threads are deleted.
     
  14. Dudeskio

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    But now you can have another screen cap of yet another Kakao "employee" ( volunteer or not, they let him/her represent them ) being not only unhelpful, but also rude.
    rudemod1.jpg
     
  15. Nycroyse

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    No comment lol
     
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  16. Extrabone

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    Its been how many years since people have been pointing out PA/Kakao censorship of their incompetence and you people still put your time and money into this casino simulator that takes more than it gives? Even more so you think raising a stink in their forums will get the message across their ears rather than using alternative media sharing platforms they have no control over?
     
  17. Dudeskio

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    We've all been all over those too.
    https://www.mmorpg.com/black-desert...hadow-arena-hackers-and-false-bans-1000052006

    https://massivelyop.com/2019/03/29/...parently-had-more-than-a-few-false-positives/



    We've also been hounding their Facebook and twitter, and several other youtubers have claimed they're making videos on the subject as well. Reddit as well, when they're not banning/censoring.

    Edit: Corrected the video link.
     
  18. RoxiAmbrosia

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    If you think the fight is only here on the forums, you haven't been paying attention

    Check out des teeth! [​IMG] ... I mean links!
     
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  19. Ksan8ia

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    Seriously, omg I can't believe what they do!!!
    I'm still falsely banned and now I see new ppl banned. Something weird is going on :(((
     

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  20. DGates

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    Where? Reddit? Like reddit isnt getting censored aswell.
     
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