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Loot Scrolls don't help the drop rate of the super rare items?

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by AMeowingCat, May 22, 2020.

  1. Pandemoniumm

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    But what if the dev's comfirmation was fake, and so your fake screenshot is no longer fake
     
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  2. KeeperG

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    Why would someone lie on the internet though? I just don’t understand.
     
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  3. Pohjantikka

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    If players really wants refunds from used Item Loot scrolls because it didn't help with the super rare drops,
    Then it means that devs have to roll back your gained silvers from the junk loot too.. I don't really see the worthiness there
    Roll back to get 100 loot scrolls and lose few billion silver
     
  4. Pohjantikka

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    This is an insteresting point since items ingame says:
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  5. NixZero

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    exactly, drop RATE, not drop AMOUNT, like clearly shown in your screen.
     
  6. Noisy

    Noisy Musa 62 NA

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    drop rate refers to scrolls, blackstones, accessories ect ect, drop amount is trash loot only
     
  7. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Well, because that's just your failed logic at work. If this had been a problem, that would not have been the solution.
    Fortunately, or unfortunately, the scrolls have been working all along, so there doesent have to be any resolution.
     
  8. woots

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    +100% of 0.025 drop chance wont really help you that much.

    BDO is a pure rng cancer, buff are just illusion as they effect on such over low % drop chance are nearly unoticiable, but hey ! its wrote +100% it only make you feel like its a HUGE buff.
     
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  9. Micariel

    Micariel Sorceress 61 EU

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    Imagine wanting a Refund for mostly gifted (or given away for free) Item collection scrolls :D

    Its also nice to see that certain people do fake stuff to proof their point and get destroyed. Are you guys seriously trying to do the trump and create your own truth by lying?

    Very nice.
     
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  10. Pohjantikka

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    LOL that is funny and true
     
  11. Sandrituky

    Sandrituky WhiteWolf Sorceress 62 EU

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    Delete this comment or ban this person for a time -_- I've misinformed my guild partners for a minutes because the fault of this person! D:<D:<D:<
     
  12. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    LOL, how about you take responsibility for that your self. No one told you to go do that.

    I say leave it as evidence for what happens when you just take things at face value.
     
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  13. Skol600ml

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    Stop this fallacy ********.

    0.001% means to expect 1 drop for each 100000 mobs killed on average.
    0.002% means to expect 1 drop for each 50000 mobs killed on average

    Doesn't matter how hard one thing is, if you doble your chances, you doble your chances. Its hard to win the lottery with 2 tickets, its harder with just 1.
    Someone may got the item with 1 mob, others with 1000000, that doesn't not change how "average" works
     
  14. Comrade

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    I logged in just to put a like on your comment.. People dont understand how simple statistics works...
     
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  15. BDOMONSTER

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    please stop posting, or please can a GM ban this guy from the forums. You are the king of fake news and its always some type of hateful sabotage of this game. You are literally the epitome of fake news for this game.
     
  16. BDOMONSTER

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    Actually most people do, what you fail to understand is to most people 1 in 100,000 and 1 in 50,000 are still extremely rare occurrences. Or another polite way to say this is "doubling of a number which is close to zero is not alot" This is where the fake news gets average joe on global warming when they discuss the increase on CO2, doubling the amount of CO2 sounds scary, but when you realize its going from 400 part per million to 800 parts per million it becomes obvious the actual amount of CO2 increase is a very small number. Its the same for -0001% being increased to .0002% sure its doubled but its an incredible small increase of only .0001% which is very different than going from say 10% to 20% which is also simply doubling but its a 10% increase which is an incredible larger increase than an increase of .0001%.

    Sometimes I dont think people who post people don't understand simple statistics dont actually understand basic numeric values.So lets be clear an increase of .0001% is an incredibly small amount to increase something by even when it results in doubling the previous value. Its what allows people to go about their lives as opposed to stay locked inside because you know if you leave your home your chance to being struck of lighting goes up by .0001% and people will tolerate that risk (I dont know the actual odds for lightning just providing a silly example to demonstrate how very small % are actually very small changes ie if you double zero you still have zero.
     
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  17. The_Lord

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    not only do you post a fake screenshot but that's just simply not true anyone who grinds alot can 100% tell you that lootscroll works lol you don't need 10k hour sample to deternine if lootscroll affect scroll drop in hystria for exemple, it clearly does. You have to be really stupid to say something like that you clearly don't grind ever and don't know what you are talking about lol
     
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    What alot of people don't seem to get here. Is 100% bonus to 0.0025% chance of success is still only 0.0050% chance of success. So they more than likely are not lying about the cash shop loot scrolls and other items. However because the base rate is so small even with a 1000% bonus it may just still be a below slim chance of getting said items.
     
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    i agree just read his post he is 100% correct majority of people do not understand math or statistics. Its the same principle with enhancement of gear. This is even more important to understand it when you look at the differences in REAL WORLD vs Coding driven "luck" you will always have numbers way outside the avg. in a specific sample but those are usually ignored in the world of games though the random number generation is typically not so random because a computer can not just pick a random number it does what it is coded to do if anyone has ever played online Texas hold em especially 6 or 7 years ago you would know exactly what i am talking about.
    The difference between .001 and .002 are so insignificant that even using drop scroll you will believe its a scam but its working 100% as intended the only difference is the patience of the person grinding.
     
  20. BDOMONSTER

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    Not sure what you are even trying to say. You lead off by saying you agree with him, and then finish off by reinforcing the opposite of what he was saying when you state "The difference between .001 and .002 are so insignificant" You are correct but he and the other poster were trying to argue they are significant and people like you don't understand simple statistics. There argument is 1 in 100,000 vs 1 in 50,000 to try to show the "large improvement". If they understand things better they would realize yes its still doubling your chances but its an incredible small increase as you said almost insignificant.

    There is actually some merit to both sides if discussed under the correct perspective. So while you said its insignificant increase (correct), they are saying well its saving you from killing an additional 50k more monsters which actually is significant (also correct).

    Also people need to stop referring to this dated nonsensical axiom of "the random number generation is typically not so random because a computer can not just pick a random number it does what it is coded to do". This is a very silly nonsensical statement while "technically true", its as technically true as saying nothing in the universe is actually random. For all intensive purposes computer generated RNG simulates RNG beyond adequately to be essentially truly random for all intensive purposes. to argue otherwise you might as well just say nothing is actually random and therefore luck of any sort does not exist at all (which technically is true but to the human mind its random enough that we call things like getting hit by lightning "bad luck" yet technically there was ZERO luck involved its just the understanding and calculations are so involved we just refer to the event as luck or random).
     
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