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Please reach out to Pegi so this game get's the right Labels it deserves and put's Devs on Blast

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Pavo, May 29, 2020.

  1. Catastigma

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    Incomparable.
    They are the problems. they are totally at fault for their behavior.
    A brain can be formatted
    A deficient immune system, no.

    Its has never been use for this, PEGI Only used to prohibit video games, censored at the slightest violence / nudity.
    Cyberpunk 2077, If it weren't pressure would have been banned in Australia.
    This is unacceptable that the situation could exist

    People with gambling problems should be monitored and their bank accounts controlled by a third party.
    and above all consulted. This necessarily requires selfhonesty which the OP has absolutely not.

    The games should in no way have passed through these purely and solely religious institution filter.
     
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  2. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    I know even as an Adult, this game awoke a latent addiction issue i never knew I had.
    I can afford it, but those who cant, and dont even know they have this issue should at least have a specific label they should afford...The language they use now is far to broad to be of any help. And they did that by design.
     
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  3. Éternel

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    I don't know why you bother arguing with the CCPbot
     
  4. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Spoken like a true elitist...You yell at people in wheel chairs for being lazy as well?
     
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  5. Andaro

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    Again, if you don't like the laws, or the rules of a third party company, then take it to your government representative, or that company.
    Until then, Kakao is following all jurisdicted regulations and guidelines. Regardless of your opinion.
     
  6. Catastigma

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    Valk dont require any change anymore. The classe is perfect on my opinion now.

    We just need BSR 10-25-50% like every Succ need anyway. I would not be happy with any additional buff.

    edit : oups misread your post

    Like i say Wheel chair have a permanante probleme that cannot be fix(Like Allergic). People with gambling probleme can be fix. his request that a little will to do calls the specialist and follow the treatments and appointments.

    I will not confuse a permanante condition and a mental disease. All behavioral disorders can be resolved.
     
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  7. Pavo

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    Why do you attack me and make assumptions because I asked for PA to be honest and PEGI to be aware this game is different than when they first analyzed this and now has gambling.

    Yet here you are in multiple posts making assumptions about why AND what I want because you keep projecting and assuming.

    I simply said that people should reach out to pegi so a few more tags get added like Cash Shop tag.

    Yet, for some reason, you got very insulted by this and keep making stuff up about me. This is also the first time I am quoting you, you have not quoted me, but keep referencing me,the OP, by saying OP wants this for that reason.... wtf?!

    Why are you so defensive about tags that are honest about a game? What does this have to do with anyone's addiction and why does this mean I am addicted to gambling?

    Your prejudices are making you say stupid and ignorant stuff because you made stupid and ignorant assumptions.

    Thanks for publicly and in writing showing your bigotry and being proud of it.....

    All because I ASKED NOT DEMANDED OR MADE ACCUSATIONS.

    Communications in 2020 on Kaka forums!
     
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  9. Catastigma

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    PEGI not serve to TAG game its a religion institution that CAN BANNING GAME.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games

    most of these banned game get filtered by a Game Rating Religious organisation.

    It is you who do not understand the dangerousness of these institutions.
    These institutions must disappear, they are extremely liberticidal and certain we have too much power.

    Applying for PEGI makes you participative in their activities, making you cooperative with their team and their beliefs.

    my *attacks* are justifiable in this way.

    If you don't want to be criticized, don't post.
     
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  10. Andaro

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    Damn, the amount of top titles banned in Germany O.O
    remind me to never visit Germany
     
  11. Éternel

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    You should check why China has banned certain titles, way more disturbing.
     
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    Sooo you 2 are just that guy who kepps saying bad stuffs even if others are right. Bet you are just some mere casuals
     
  13. Pavo

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    Why do you have to assume wrongly, than attack and insult based on that assumption, only so you can make stuff up to fit your argument?

    I will say one thing, not sure if you did this on purpose or not, but you have given my thread a lot of attention and kept it at the top of page 1 since I created it.

    In essence, you have gotten this thread so much more attention and exposure than I could ever manage that.

    For that I thank you, but please don't assume and make stuff up just to argue with me. If you have something to say to me or about me than quote me.
     
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    Judge: "Your game is 16+. Either you increase the rating of your game or change the game so it fits the rating 16+."
    Kakao / PA: "We have censored shai class for NA and EU."
    Judge: "OK, accepted."
    :-P
     
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    You read that as saying the same thing?
    Interesting..They are not the same thing, but it explains alot about you and why you perceive things the way you do.

    What is a casual then in your opinion? Cause so far your statement is in refrence to a person who refuses to use IRL money to gamble for progression in a a game, due to having a latent gambling addiction.(Me). A person who prefers the company monetization is not tied with gimping your progress, once again me. Does that fit your description of casual?

    If others feel they want that option, fine. All im saying is that progression should not be paywalled behind real currency gambling mechanics the way they are. So to solve this problem, put in a Pearl to silver conversion exchange, or allow all gambling items the ability to be listed in the central market like costumes. That way whales can continue whaling, Pa can continue getting paid, and players can progress from grinding content supplying the whales.
    Everyone is happy, cause you said it your self..you were able to progress past the glass ceiling and you could only do so cause you could buy the paywalled items from the central market.
     
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    arguing with atomic is futile, he try to quote only the sentences he might be able to answer and repeat the same arguements again and again, and when it all fail he simply try to attack you instead of your arguments.
    *not to mention most of what he argue against was never said...
    example - https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/remove-resistances.522575/
     
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  17. zeezero

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    This bandwagon is a perfect spot to recruit people for our cause. What's a better spot for me to raise awareness of these issues than on the forum of the game I'm trying to raise awareness about?
    I definitely wish for tighter restrictions in my country.
    I don't like these predatory practices in the gaming industry in general.

    Claiming Kakao follow every law does not make them a good or trustworthy company. It makes them a company well aware of the line they can and cannot cross currently, regardless of the moral implications.

    As you have obviously stated. They will not change, as they are not techinically breaking the law, and that's all they care about. So we need to legislate so that they can enjoy being law abiding citizens. And we as players can enjoy our games predator free.
     
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    Imho, the issue here, is PA, and not that much kakao, maybe i'am wrong, but at that point of the game where PA edit themself BDO in numerous country
    Kakao certainly now only are PA puppet ( especialy when it come to the cash shop and all the "lets be shady af" ) and for the rest they can go fk off, i'am even betting PA would be more than happy to get ride of kakao for BDO west, at see how they excluded the west / kakao from their international node wars stuff announced at the heidel ball thing..

    And i really doubt we would be in a better spot with PA in charge here tho, maybe the western voice would have more weight ( but i even doubt that )

    The interesting action would be to have something made "against" PA directly to have them have no other way but to change somes of their way.
    Since lets say, there is harsh action in the west vs BDO PA would certainly still not bother and just abandon that region as they have plenty of others one for milk with their sh#tty casino. ( but again maybe i'am wrong )
     
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    You are right!
     
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    Labels have never meant much to me. And perhaps, that has been to my own detriment...and I don't care.
     

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