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Please reach out to Pegi so this game get's the right Labels it deserves and put's Devs on Blast

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Pavo, May 29, 2020.

  1. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Its not really for you. Its for children predisposed to gambling addiction, so they know when they log in, parents leave their wallet locked up.
     
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    Labels are useful for the people who need them. It's helpful for people with gambling problems, as they can easily get the information that there's a risk for them. If they know they'll fall back into bad behaviours, they'll stay away from the game.
    RL Casino have understood that and cooperate without problem. They don't want problematic gamblers. But some publishers in the gaming industry seem very reluctant to separate themselves from these easy targets to fleece. Not only that's immoral, but it also shows a problem in the business model of the game and it's actual place in the market. If you rely on ripping off people with mental issues, there's something wrong in your product (quality?) and/or your business model (wrong prices?).
     
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    Pegi is not enforceable in most countries. However, the good part is that the game has such a bad reputation that nobody wants to play it anyway.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Well, it helps when you wanna tell other parents that ask you things about this, that its as easy as just keeping any game with that label out of your house. That alone should deter companies from relying on such methods for monetization.
     
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    If you ask me, this does not look very consumer oriented. And i doubt your average mom would understand what its implications are and/or that all of the in game purchases are the same.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    They made it broad like that on purpose. To confuse people so they ignore it, since its on every game nowadays.

    PEGI is owned by the industry, so like the tobacco industry they know how to manipulate language to not effect their bottemline, while at the same time providing themselves an out, to avoid regulation.
     
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    as much as i agree with you PEGI rating is nothing but a tool of the system to wash their dirty laundry, 2k trailer video about NBA 2k20 is proof of that.



    He is being realistic and asking for something that already exists and is legally supposed to be "regulated" by the rating system called ESRB, if your sensitivity has lead you to develop a burn by his statement i would suggest you to apply some cream to it.
     
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    You do realize that by using outdated PEGI rating they can get the game canceled and receive a HUGE-a** fine right? Oo
    Maybe I'm just dumb white central-eauropean but I do know that you never, EVER, should go against EU in this regard.

    PEGI rating serves as "what you can and cannot do".
    Mostly it serves so you cannot offer it to ppl of WRONG age. ... and I bet you won't have many listings with 18+ and gambling lol
     
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    Meanwhile I'm sitting here with 297/346 or 273/377 and thinking to myself "did I miss all the gambling aspect of the game"? Sure, there was RNG involved 3 years ago when steam was coming out and people were enhancing TETs but holy ****, it's been 3 years since Steam/Striker release, get over it. xD

    It's same **** as always.

    1. Omg, I have to grind 3b to buy a TET item? That's ********, I'll just enhance it myself!!!!
    2. Omg 5 fails? ********!
    3. Omg I spent 4b for it and it's still PRI 0 dura. ********!
    4. Omg it's finally TET... BUT I SPENT OVER 5B!!!!
    5. Omg this game is gambling, please contact PEGI!!!!!!!!!

    I know that the idea might seem crazy... but no one tells you to risk anything. It used to be bad when everyone had TRI gear and pushing TET, but it was never that bad. People got full TET in like 2 months of playing. And now? Sure, many people get lucky with PEN, but PEN is 2 weeks of grinding/lifeskilling. It doesn't even take that much patience to get them all without gambling.

    People choose to gamble themselves despite having alternatives because they have an idiotic notion that they will be those lucky ones, one in a thousand, that will get it. And when they don't, they cry. You guys have alternatives of steady progression. You can put Caphras into your gear to get guaranteed success (isn't even much more expensive, and gets you neat engraving on your item) or you can just buy it off the market. People still gamble because they'd rather get lucky at 4% chance with 4m stone than save and get PEN.
     
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    please never EVER come to Spain either.

    in the end all those banns were approved by the correspondent government comission, i dont see whats the problem with that.if you are not willing to follow a country's laws then dont do bussiness there.

    prove it
     
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    In every game forum of every game of every company there is always 1 o 2 people defending like white knights the shady practices of a company. Like covering their actual addictions and insecurities. I saw it in every p2w game makes me feel sorry for them.
     
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    So many cash loot boxes these days in the game. It feels like enhancing gear was just the preperation to collect enough people who love risking stuff to cash in on loot boxes with the right audience now.
     
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    You should not be game ambassador anymore. Time for a petition for you to be removed.

    In game depictions of gambling are not the same as actual gambling items for SALE, and you damn well know that.
     
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    ESRB is only for the USA (and Canada), but the publisher is european.
     
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    Make the game pegi 18 and force everyone to show proof of id to prove that they are 18+ those who aren't should get perma banned and fined by the local police.

    I want justice for both parties!
     
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    Hearts Valkyrie 62 EU

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    How is that good ? Most people here keeps playing, nobody likes an empty mmo.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Interesting..Then maybe they shouldn't have gambling tied to IRL currency in their video games...Just a thought you know.
    For some reason, thats just not an option for these people.
     
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    Fill in the game with as much player as possible at all cost....
     
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    You completely miss the point.
     
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  20. Pavo

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    It's beyond amazing, that in writing, people are more than willing to project and assume, just to support their point or state of mind.

    I made no claims or complaints in my OP, I just said the game has changed as this should be looked at. Than a few people assume all this crap about gambling, which to me, is a projection of your own issues and problems. It's like you are arguing/ trying to refute yourself, but using me as as assumed, literal Straw Man.

    I never mentioned my gear or ap/dp, so why did you mention yours like it means something in this topic or is relevant to this conversation, which I understand you weren't trying to have.

    Why do you and a few people take posts like this personally, like it's an attack to your personal morals or some weird things like that?

    Thanks for the bump in the thread though, people like you do keep it alive. I hope you take my post in the spirit it's given as I am not attacking you or calling you names, I'm simply disagreeing with your assumptions and premise built upon those assumptions.

    I EVEN SAID I'M NOT TRYING TO BRING BDO DOWN AND OF COURSE SOME OF YOU GUYS CONVENIENTLY IGNORED THIS.

    LOL
     
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