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Please reach out to Pegi so this game get's the right Labels it deserves and put's Devs on Blast

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Pavo, May 29, 2020.

  1. ManlyBeard

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    What do they think about the mappers?
     
  2. Eltruism

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    I didn't tell you anything. Make more stuff up.
     
  3. Allan1985

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    how do you expect "regular" parents to know about the danger that poses a videogame if it doesnt have any label on it warning them? the videogame industry was not so ****ed up 20 years ago as it is now, i still remember buying a game without having to do a deep investigation on the developer's background, checking if those developers had scamed any other gaming community before, or if they were exploiting the weaknesses of the gambling regulations in my country, even as a veteran game i still get ****ed sometimes because i am used to believe companies want to uphold a positive reputation, but times change and they do it fast, look at ATLAS, created by the developers of ARK, a game sold as an early access with a 2 years long developing time, they sold 50k copies of a recycled copy paste of ARK with their reputation as a guarantee and they literally stopped working on it after 2 months, nowadays companies dont give a flying fuk about reputation, they very least thing we deserve to have as an indicator is a goddamn label
     
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  4. Prokaizer

    Prokaizer Maehwa

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    Many things are scam in this game.

    I got a +6 Calpheon Fishing Rod that gives 7% chance to catch big fish and i also got a +6 Ash Tree Float that gives another 7% chance to catch big fish and i catch 0 big fish per hour?

    The extra +14% chance is added to a 0.001% chance?

    If yes then that means that the chance of catching big fish increase from 0.001% to 0.014%.

    If i consider that i get good stuff from Dark Rift bosses (most of the times) and rare drops from grinding, then why i can't finish a quest in 25+ hours with +14% buffs?
     
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  5. Pavo

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    And Yet......

    Thank you for your reply and further explanation, and apologies for our delayed response.



    We have looked into Black Desert Online and based on our findings, the PEGI content descriptor that warns for in-game purchases will be added to the game.



    Our definition of gambling requires that the game shows simulations of games of chance that are normally carried out in casinos and gambling halls. Therefore, the gambling descriptor does not apply in this case.



    We suggest contacting the publisher about your concerns regarding the RNG and cash shop mechanics, if you feel that players are being treated unfairly in this regard.



    Kind regards,


    Interesting that they won't put the gambling tag on this game, yet put the cash shop tag on it. Ironic?
     

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  6. Akeno

    Akeno Sorceress 62

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    I actually did get a reply from pegi regarding bdo and they said they will be getting black desert online to put in game purchases on their rating but as far as the rng and cash shop mechanics that is something we have to discuss with the publisher sadly :/
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Yea, thats a cop out. WTF does in-game purchases mean, and what does that have to do with gambling.
    Gambling, aka paying for chance is the problem not the game having a cash shop. They want the term to be vague so it applies to all games. How does "in-game purchases" differentiate gambling for progression from a cosmetic shop, or expansions you can purchase ingame?

    So the gambling label only applies to simulations, and not actual gambling?
    Should ask them then what label does actual gambling get?
    EU is funny. NA is worse.

     
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    is this you? LOL
     
  9. Akeno

    Akeno Sorceress 62

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    I know its not great but that's why there are govt bodies and social media outlets discussing that very subject they know its harmful but until that day comes where it is recognized or the practice removed all we can do is voice our discontent and vote with our wallets.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    $307 saved her 2 years grind to find out that blackstar wasn't going to go tet. lets see at $20 a month for value pack x24 is $480.

    That lil stunt saved her 2 years, and $173.
     
  11. Andaro

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    Glad to hear that PEGI themselves killed the wind out of this thread's sails. Can we close it now? Or do you guys feel there is still a reason to call folks together to bother Pegi, now that they've snuffed out your candle.

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  12. Pavo

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    You are something special.

    They are adding a Cash Shop tag, tyvm, and they did not "agree" somehow about the gambling tag.

    Yet here you are, as a supposed ambassador of something, lying outright about what happened, but worse now ACCUSING us of bothering pegi.

    You are what is wrong with these forums and these 2 companies, FYI. I despise the fact you keep popping into my threads to troll, than report me when I call you out.
     
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    Are you seriously denying that this game is full of ways to gamble with real money?
     
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    He is. Now what are you going to do about it?
     
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    The problem with this Youtube class action lawsuit discussion is that the game offers SERVICES and it has no EXCHANGE for real money value. Of course in psychological point of view, they define VALUE as in something that a person buys and it has value on the said consumer.

    But yes we agree that gaming lootboxes (crons and artisans included) is getting out of hand and we don't have actual laws to prevent it.
     
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    MoonDance17 Lahn 61 NA

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    Nothing apart from I just called him out for lying to himself.
     
  18. Fearless V

    Fearless V Lahn 61 NA

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    Then you are lost!
     
  19. MoonDance17

    MoonDance17 Lahn 61 NA

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    Definitely not lost just disgusted in pay to win in this and many other games. I will never buy another Korea's mmo and will not buy any game that has loot boxes. Alas this game had neither when I bought it but I am voting with my wallet.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    How..Did you read PEGI responce. Only gambling simulations qualify, not actual gambling? No they need more people to write, and clarify why that view is off. They pretty much said Black desert doesent qualify cause it has actual gambling, aka paying for chance. Not simulations, where you just play for chance. And we got a new meme video from the thread. SO its served a very valid purpose.

    When ever people ask about the gambling we can just pop in that vimeo video showing someone toss away 300 bucks.
     
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