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PvE only servers is the next step.

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Fearless V, Aug 14, 2018.

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Should PA make PvE only servers for us.

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  1. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    You have a save environment and want to get the same rewards as on an unsave environment.
    It's a simply risk vs reward situation.
    Arsha server = higher risk = higher reward.

    Having a save environment where you can lifeskill everywhere in the world savely and grind without others killing you, will make it easier to progress and can **** with the balance of nodewars/sieges. So either, make it a server for those who really don't care about pvp, so they can pve there in peace, but can't come back to pvp servers, OR lower the rewards in return for the save environment in which they can grow.
     
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  2. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    Because it would allow growing in a save environment. You could have the benefit of nobody killing you while gathering the top spots, fishing outside of savezones for the best fish or grinding spots without being able to be contested there. This would result in a more easy and faster progression than on other servers and someone there will grow faster. People could go there just for savely growing and then coming back to do pvp on the other servers.
    So the only option would be to lower the growth rate on those servers or lock them, so only those, who actually only want to do pve will play there.
     
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  3. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    It hurts because you can do things on it you can't do on others which allow faster and save growth compared to other servers. If you were not locked into them or have slower growth rate, you could abuse the pve servers to rapidly grow and then go back to do pvp.
     
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  4. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    His name is Fearless V...It means he doesn't fear using the V skill to run away from pvpers :D
     
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  5. Nagasaki

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    The truth has been spoken!! ^
     
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    A locked PVE server would indeed work and fit for a lot of players. No one is really in a position to say 'No' outside of the developer. Trying to dictate what a player can do on a server that you yourself wouldn't even play on is quite selfish. Some people love the PVE/Lifeskilling aspect of BDO and the only downfall to them in BDO is that they have to stop at level 49 to avoid PVPers harassing them any time they try to explore higher level content. That's not really fair to those players. Sure, say 'PVP is part of the game'. But why try to use that as a reason for not having a PVE server? Most lifeskillers are not avoiding organized pvp, which is really the only decent pvp in BDO. They're avoiding people with 500+ GS PKing them with their 250 GS in their LT/Lifeskill gear and then spamming toxicity at them in chat until they get blocked.

    A PVE server would do very well in BDO. I do agree that it should be locked so that it's not used to gear in a safe environment then swap once you're geared up. Arsha has the +50% loot drop increase and people do swap to it to take advantage and then go back to normal servers. But, on Arsha, they can be PK'd if someone sees them doing it and decides to stop it. On a PVE server that's not possible. So, the locked feature would be a good addition. There would likely need to be some type of measure taken to prevent people trolling in grind spots. But, it could also just be a trade off of playing on a server like that. I'm not sure what the answer to that would be. I've pvp'd in virtually every game I've played since Delta Force 2 in 1999, and I can see both sides of it. Give the PVE people somewhere they can play to fully enjoy the entirety of the game without dealing with the PVP if they so choose. But any character made there, is locked there.

    -Showstorm
     
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    Everyone here claiming that "grind rotations" would be ****ed and noone could grind anymore. You people would be surprised how many players actually dont give af about other players "invading" their grindspot taking some of their mobs, and instead just randomly roam around those huge spot randomly killing some packs.


    Who cares about optimizing his grind rotation and efficiency anyway as long as sea monsters are a thing? You argue and whine about some dude reducing your hourly grind xp/silver by 1-2 mil. when instead you could be making 5-10x more with sailing.
     
  8. Nagasaki

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    You know that payouts don’t work alone right? Your whole guild needs to contribute otherwise they are just leeching off your efforts.
    Grinding can be done solo or in group.
    Grinding can be down from the first second you start bdo.
    Seamonsters? Yeah gl with that with no frigate or whatever. In the same time you invest to get that money you could have over 450gs on a fresh account then slowly working your way up to 500+
     
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    Would only enjoy a PVE server for lifeskilling. I don't really care anymore, otherwise.
     
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    You cant grind from the first second you start bdo, unless you consider ~200k / h good income, you first need to invest some serious money into pets, then you need to lvl to atleast 56, next you need at the very least green TRI gear (or minimum green tri weapons), for which you have to work a couple days or even weeks if youre on a completely new account. Only then can you start grinding half-decently with mediocre efficiency & speed at low-mid grindspots which are nowhere near as lucrative as the higher "endgame" ones. If you want to make the best possible money from grinding, spots like hystria solo or gyfin groups, you need about a year+ of working on your level/sp and gear, and even then the income from that is far below seamonster hunting...

    Any completely fresh new player at lvl 1 can search for and join a seamonster hunting guild as a deckhand for repairs & additional weight limit, not all sailing guilds would accept that but some do, and at best he might get asked to buy some weight upgrades from the store (which ideally he would need to grind as well anyway). Thats already all he needs to start getting atleast a couple hundred mil. in weekly payouts, while he can start working on the production of his own sailboat/frigatte.
     
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    can't wait to see all these so-called pve players join party and grind catfish, because u know... u can't really stop them from killing the mobs and u don't really have enough pve channels to go... as long as u have enough ap and mobility, and why bother with dp gears when most mobs are dead in 1 skill...no one gonna slap ur ass anyway
    exp/droprate need to be adjusted
    lifeskill, not really... lifeskill alts all the way...
     
  12. Nagasaki

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    you most certainly can!
    you start at level one, you start killing those beetles. where as you can NOT go seamonster hunting as a level1
     
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    Did we not had this topic already? All we need are a few more real PvP channels to lift some of its heavy load and, according to patch history, its popular to add a few PvP restrictions to the regular/light PvP channels; like autoswitch to the Hardcore PvP channel when reaching half max neg Karma; to add something new for the PvP community, you know. I mean its obvious they are more happy with more restrictions on the regular channel opposed to add some channels where other people could be more happy with while at the same time some of the PvP/Karma restrictions could be removed with the introduction of PvE channels.
     
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    why automatically assume this as if it's a rule? pve minded people have a lot of respect for the first come, first served rule. yes, there are jerks out there, but that's life. you deal.


    what are these things you can do faster on pve server vs regular server
     
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    > people will just grief eachoeach over grind spots.

    > You hardly get PKed over spots anymore.


    There isn't even a linear position as to why a PVE server shouldn't be. What few I've read to be a good reason NOT to have one, is fixed by an easy solution.

    The game is showing signs of going complete and utter extreme p2w. The more PA starts seeing greener grass in bigger pastures, they will Garner whatever they can in terms of dollars just so we, the dumb playerbase, will pay for their newer incentives totally unrelated to us.

    That means very expensive assholes that didn't have the integrity to play the game like it was designed, will run amok in God mode tearing the pvp scene apart.
     
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    I think turn off PVP possibility if you have lifeskill clothes weared, also lock grind spots for equal geared people only. For example catfishes loot/exp only for people with 150-200 rs (only example) and sausans for people 400-450 rs, if someone with 390 or 460 rs try to kill mobs he got nothing, no loot, no exp... if you progress with gear you can go to higher grind spots and fight for spot only with equal geared people.
     
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  17. Shichi88

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    No I just kill them and keep going negative, im one of those that will waste your time, the one who doesnt care about karma.
     
  18. AZzalor

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    Not faster, but more safe, which leads to a faster growth.
    Especially lifeskills. You can fish outside of safezones and get more money with it, you can gather without anyone interrupting you and so on.
    Basically, you can do everything you could do on normal servers, but without the risk involved which will end up you growing faster on those servers. So either make the growth slower to counter that effect OR lock those people to the pve server. Otherwise the pve server, which is ment for people who just enjoy the pve content and don't wanna do pvp, would be abused by people who want easy and riskless growth to get into pvp quickly.
     
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    the backpedaling begins. okay explain safer. or are you gonna backpedal here too?
     
  20. BaldVulture

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    if they make a pve only server it should be seperate or once you port your toon over you cant go back to other servers otherwise there wont be any reason to play the other servers and you will notice real fast the your pve only server will become overpopulated and grinding will be impossible as a result and you wont be able to do anything about it.
     
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