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Real Free to Play

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Allan1985, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. Allan1985

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    Since bdo bussiness model is already p2w+subscription+cosmetics+DLC(weight/inven slots/banks slots/etc) and considering they went back on their word of not introducing p2w mechanics couldnt we at least get rid of the value pack relate MP taxes???
     
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  2. Khondo

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    I have a friend/guildy who has been playing for close to 10 months, has 2 level 60's and 10+ toons. He purchased the game for $5 and has purchased $10 in pearls (for character slots when they are on special). Spent nothing else on the game other than the time to play and has 10+ pets has a value pack running every month, and has outfits on all of his alts that he plays.

    You do not have to spend money on this game if you don't want to. The game IS free to play.

    You decide if you want to spend money on the game, your choice.
     
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  3. XLucaX

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    Dont forget the literal events talking about level a char to 56 and get your trial account for free. Sure peeps will cry 56 is too hard, but cmon, theres videos out there showing how to go from 1- 56 in a few hours.
     
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  4. Allan1985

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    i know people that lives on the streets under a bridge and eats from charity, so is life also free?
     
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  5. Khondo

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    It is if you want it to be, YOUR choice.

    Choice is a funny thing, you choose how you want to live your life. You just have to live with the outcomes of what choices you make.
     
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  6. Allan1985

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    why are you switching topics tho? we are not talking about choices here, we are talking about something being encased in a definition or not, this game is by definition is not f2p, specially if you consider most of the content you have to buy to play it should be included by default. also the simple fact that it has a subscription model already leaves out the posibility of it being called f2p BY DEFINITION.
     
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  7. GreyRebel

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    life is free for you , your mom paid the price for it . But how you live it is up to you
     
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  8. Angar

    Angar Archer EU

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    yes.
    the cost to sustain it though, is not
     
  9. Khondo

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    No, we are talking about choice. You are not required to pay any money to play this game once you have purchased it.

    It is YOUR CHOICE TO SPEND MORE MONEY.
     
  10. Allan1985

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    to be brought to life and to live are 2 different things

    freedom of choice cannot be considered as such when you are being coerced into a room in wich all doors require your visa credit card to be opened
     
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  11. GreyRebel

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    to live is f2p too , you can start with 0 $ in ur packet and end up having a very very good life by working for it , thats how it is in f2p games too .
     
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  12. GreyRebel

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    i think you are mixing two things up , this game being p2w has no connection to the purchase model , i mean games can be f2p or b2p or p2p , and also be/not be p2w.
     
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  13. Allan1985

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    As i said before those are 2 diferent things, and by definition f2play means free to play for everybody, even if you suck at playing the game, even if you miss both your hands, even in you are postrated in a bed, a game being f2p cannot be defined by the persons playing it, rather of the thraits of the game itself (wich is not the case in life)

    wich is exactly what i meant, i didnt expect to have to be so "10 years old clear" about this, but ok, change "life" for "living", since people seems to be unwilling to understand and stay on the topic unless is crystal clear, can we move on now?
     
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  14. Kerenis

    Kerenis Valkyrie 61 EU

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    did you just reply to yourself?
     
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  15. Angar

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    dont mind me i am just trolling
     
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  16. XLucaX

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    wtf are you talking about? there are literal players playing right now that are stronger than you who only purchased the game and nothing else. But sure ill play your analogy, the doors require your visa but theres a literal hole next to the door that you can just walk through.
     
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  17. GreyRebel

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    lol ye i meant to reply to his last comment , let me go fix it !
    edit : all done now :)

    the game is buy to play
     
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  18. Smileybones

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    The level of brainwashing and cash shop promotion is astounding. If there were no free alternative to most cash shop items, then there would be no choice.

    And a way smaller playerbase.
     
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  19. Allan1985

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    first refrain yourself from adjectivizing, is unecessary, rude, subjective (since is linked to your personal opinion) irrelevant and doesnt contribute to the topic at all
    second as i said before we are talking about the very definition of f2p, wich is not linked at all to players performance or work arounds rather to the game design on itself
    third using imaginary elements in a analogy is fine as long as you create a direct link between that element and reality, you simply stated there was a hole and never bothered to explain what that hole represents ingame exactly, wich is making up arguments (not a positive point for your credibility if you ask me)
     
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  20. Allan1985

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    xD
     
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