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Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Allan1985, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. cliveklg

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    VP is easy to buy off the market.
     
  2. Allan1985

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    that not exactly the point, in a f2p game it shouldnt even exist.
     
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  3. cliveklg

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    why shouldn't it? It is still completely accessable to f2p players. You are contradicting yourself. If it was content that f2p players couldn't buy in game then you would have a point. Which there is. The VP however is not one of those items.
     
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  4. Allan1985

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    simply because VP is the representation of a subscription bussines model and by definition of the f2p bussines model you cannot be a f2p game and at the same time be a subscription based game, they are mutually excludent.
     
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  5. Smileybones

    Smileybones Ranger 61 NA

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    VP is clearly not representative of a sub since it's optional, while a sub is mandatory to even login to the servers.
     
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  6. Allan1985

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    i dont agree, TERA is a subscription based MMO and you can perfectly access all the servers and content without it
     
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  7. Smileybones

    Smileybones Ranger 61 NA

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    Tera isn't sub based anymore and is f2p since like forever.

    Point stands, the very definition of a sub is that you gotta pay to access the servers.
     
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  8. WinterMilla

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    Your paying a monthly fee to get extra perks. While you can get the item from in game it still no less a sub as you have to re-earn it every month. I dare say Kama buff is also a sub as you pay monthly to receive a perk.
     
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  9. Smileybones

    Smileybones Ranger 61 NA

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    The definition of sub you provided isn't correct in the context of MMORPGs where the lack of subscription prevents you to access any content. The example you provided for BDO aren't subs since they're optional.
     
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  10. WinterMilla

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    Aren't subs normally optional?
    Its locks up mervs palette and character customization, which you can buy the separate item to use them, but really who buys them? It prevents you from using features on the map which is content.

    A lot more MMOs are selling this new subscription type as a "convenient" item. Rather than selling you expansions in the form of new content they sell it to you as "it will hurt a lot less with this". Most of the MMO's that still sell expansions are MMOs from a different time.
     
  11. Smileybones

    Smileybones Ranger 61 NA

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    Subs aren't optional and never have been in 20 years of MMOs: if you don't pay the sub you can't play the game at all, this is what a sub based game means.

    I don't deny the existence of VPs and Kama blessings, but the term "sub" describes another reality, so you gotta use another word to describe them.
     
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  12. elynia01

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    couldnt agree more !!! u are definetly so right .. u can spend money, but u dont have to . but all these crybabies want everything handet to them on a silver plate... its disgusting
     
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  13. Shastalya

    Shastalya Warell Musa 50 EU

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    You and the ppl liking that comment are in need of help.
     
  14. fenzz

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    he is right though, just like its your choice if to play this game or not. its your choice if you want to spend money on it or not.
     
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  15. Shastalya

    Shastalya Warell Musa 50 EU

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    Its not that simple, but i wont bother arguing with you or anybody else, ill waste my time.
    Good day to you sir.
     
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    That's your choice as well. <3<3<3
     
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  17. Allan1985

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    "The free-to-play model has driven Tera’s revenues up three-fold compared to its subscription era"

    https://venturebeat.com/2013/03/20/...ay-game-than-when-it-required-a-subscription/

    is f2p since like forever


    false, as proven above

    sub is that you gotta pay to access the servers

    false again as proven above

    subcription based models are forms of monetization, just as microtransactions, and microtransactions are "optional" too
     
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    Tho u have to admit he was damn lucky sniping that consistently from MP - cause heck I havent gotten a VP preorder for 2 months now D:

    Wikipedia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscription_business_model
    The subscription business model is a business model in which a customer must pay a recurring price at regular intervals for access to a product or service.


    In this case the valuepack is a SERVICE in the game.
    You pay 'recurringly' to enjoy the service it offers to your game.

    Such like a subscription of any kind of 'premium' features of any software tool.
     
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  19. Smileybones

    Smileybones Ranger 61 NA

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    Huh ? Your link states Tera went from sub based to f2p, as I stated

    As I stated already, this subscription deifnition is incorrect in MMORPGs context as 20 years of experience with them proves.
     
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  20. Preslavv

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    I had a guildie who never spent single cent on this game except for buying it. In a year he had full tet boss gear with full tri yellow acc. He didnt even grind, all his money came from worker empire, he just sold in market everything his workers gathered. Never have bought vp for real money or from mp. And almost every item he bought from mp or enhanced himself, and note it was with old mp. And most of his time he was afk. He just managed his workers, thats all. And funny thing is after a year or so, he sold his account for a really nice rl money. He even make huge profit with this game.

    So technically, you could get almost everything in game without spending real money or some hardcore grind every day. Its how you approach bdo. Sure, if you are new and want to do hardcore pvp in few months, it will not be so easy. If you just want to play in your own pace and not be bothered by others theories how hard you should push yourself, its all up to you. So you dont need to invest rl money into this if you want to play.
     
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