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Rework of the advance carrack blue gear

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Allan1985, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. Allan1985

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    first i will clarify that if thats what you decided i am fine with it, not trying to force anyone into aligning with my opinion, but you are just moving the moment in wich you gonna do the upgrading, not its worth, neddless to say is that if the real end game gear is worth it i will have to simply put up with blue, but then i will feel my effort is being put into something that i find worth it wich will make it much less annoying to do as compared of doing it now.

    Btw Blackstar TET gives you 32 extra damage to monsters that no other main weapon has, how is that not worth it????
     
  2. Riandrisael

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    I mean really at this point if they wanted to go yellow/orange on boat gear I think they would have already gone there since we had a whole content cycle where boats had only green and blue gear for sailboat/frigate. Then they had the perfect chance to add a power scaling gear for yellow or higher during that same content cycle and instead made a similar set with the same blue quality. Then add a whole new content patch all-around boats and yet again it's all capped at blue, so I don't really see a reason why they would add another tier unless they decide carracks are going to be around for next boat content cycle.



    Well, to be fair you get extra speed, DP, cannon reduction, cannon damage, and tons of other stats that make your ship much stronger compared to a normal base green carrack, so just acting like it's not an upgrade isn't all that fair tbh. Really the point is that you don't think its enough and that's something on you, not the game since plenty of people already have blue gear or are working towards it cause they think it is worth it and at least several people have full +10 blue gear. So, if you don't think it's worth it, you can just wait for the mega nerf they will do probably in like 4-10+ months whenever they decide to push out the next section of this content.
     
  3. Allan1985

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    I understand that is reasonable to expect blue gear to stay as last gear release due to that already happening in the past, but if that turns out to be the case then excellent for me because i can skip blue and continue doing what i have been doing.

    the thing is that by considering the stats you mention we once again fall in the poor design part of the conversation, if the gear was supposed to make the specific characteristics of each ship greater to differentiate them even more why is the difference in weight between the +10 Advance Chiro's Black Plating (blue carrack gear) and +10 Volante Chiro's Black Plating (blue carrack gear) only 1850 LT??? thats is not even 2 tier 5 items difference.

    also, stating "plenty of people already have blue gear or are working towards it" without any sort of data backing up your statement not only makes it look like a desperate argument but also protraits a sheep like midset in wich if the majority does it then its automatically right, but aside from that just as you suggest i will wait and see as the content is now i dont feel engaged to do it at all.
     
  4. Riandrisael

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    I mean sure they could make the boats much more different than they are now which is fair but I don't think to make the blue pieces do that is the right option here if anything they should go back and revamp each stats so they are actually different and the choices are more meaningful with some options just being clearly wrong like the balance lol.

    If I had to guess PA is afraid of making ships too powerful since carrack is already pretty insane from what we have now so didn't want blue gear to get so insane it starts breaking things like vell and like I guess crocs if that even matters.

    But from what I have seen in-game from others talking in server chat and my own social circle + things like random discords there are plenty of people at least going for 1 piece (the cannon for most people) and I have seen screenshots of at least 3 people including myself with full +10 of various types, so far volante, valor and like I would assume advanced. So, clearly I don't have the stats but just based on that random information it seems more likely that a decent amount of people are going for blues than the gear being pointless to go for.
     
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  5. Allan1985

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    fair enough, i am just curious about something, how often are the monster materials droped? are they common drops or rare? (its something i have been wondering since i started checking out the blue gear)
     
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    I have skip this part, I done the Carrack and this gear from start, no problem. But I have a work and need at daytime, then it's a easy calculation that this part is out of range for me. I know that the chanse is very big that they nerf the requirment for how to get this parts. They have done it's easier to create a Carrack now compare how it was from start, today it's easy to do your Carrack. I'm pretty sure it will be easier to get this items to, wait and see.
     
  7. Peisinoe

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    So you list combat gear - which has had yellow and orange added (and is the only area to have this as a direct upgrade addition), then lifeskill clothes and some tools - which I already explained are not a direct correlation, as the previous gear was EXP increase and time reduction, but the new gear fits in with an entirely new mastery system which does not relate to the old gear at all. So no, lifeskilling does not count as this trend you are trying to identify.

    I pointed out before, although you must have missed it, that the new lifeskilling clothing and tools only cover a limited amount of lifeskills available and asked where you had examples to confirm this trend you are saying confirms to you that yellow/orange gear will arrive for boats. You seem to think clothing and tools are all that exist. Have we seen yellow/orange horse gear? Have we seen orange/yellow wagons or wagon gear? Have we seen yellow or orange grade alchemy/cooking tools?

    So, once again, outside of combat gear (armour, weapons, gems, buffs), has the game really shown time and again that it has adopted your projected tiering system? And can you confidently suggest that it will arrive for boats in the near future (it has been 5 years in KR after all with no sign of yellow gear).
     
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  8. Riandrisael

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    From what I have been doing croc wise they don't drop that often and unless you have agris or loot scroll I wouldn't recommend grinding there specifically for blue gear mats. Since without anything it's like every like 5-15 kills for 1 drop and it only drops 1 mat per, but if you are doing it with just loot scroll it can be 1-3 per drop so it's not horrible but not amazing and agris raises it up to x6 per drop so it's actually kinda good. Though if you don't want to grind them at all it's still just as good to just get sea coins since you only save 100 sea coins for a lot of the drops there. Most of the mats cost 350 sea coins each and with the croc drops it would only cost 250 sea coins instead, the only exception is the violent plywood which requires 2 different drops and reduces the cost to 0 sea coins. which would save 350 sea coins or half of that per drop for those two making them slightly better than the others at 175 saved but still not amazing.

    I personally did mostly sea coin grinding cause I did it before the 3 max barter reset nerf a while back so it was much better but now it's probably about the same to farm crocs in between since you would have a lot of down time anyway.
     
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  9. CrankyWizard

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    Reading this thread;

    walking away with; end game gear is not what the current best gear in the game is, but something that “might” be released in the future.

    perpetually never at end-game, I guess.
     
  10. Kynreaa

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    Just like a slot machine. Its like that by design. If you're new here, I hope you have a gambling addiction that needs satisfying..cause that high you get after investing in a tap is what this game is gonna become about. And when that stops...the winning..its best to just walk away. Especially since IRL money is required to progress past inconvenient, or intentionally gimped.

    Having said that..this place can be cheaper then its casino alternative..so its better then digital slots in that fashion...like a grind in between each pull of the handle. A pretty looking grind, for a pretty looking handle.

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    That's the handle flushing 2 years of grind down the toilet. So dont wager progression , or IRL money if you cant handle it.
     
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