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RNG Frustration

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by GreyRebel, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. Fearless V

    Fearless V FearlessBeing Ranger 61 NA

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    I asked a few questions. I did not assume anything.
     
  2. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    hard agree on "it is what it is" i´m not a big fan of the rng system aswell - but if i want to play bdo i have to accept it how it is, and i do

    i get backups, never click my maingear and it became way less tedious

    very passive agressive questions mate, but maybe i misunderstood u im not native
     
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  3. Ashenvall

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    Money motivates every aspects of this game. Nothing more. It's just las vegas on internet with no law regulation.
    And people can't ruled/controled themselves when "slot machines" are involved (acumbens nucleus and dopamine system).
     
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  4. GreyRebel

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    the thing about "accept or move on " is , if we all think like that bdo will get worst day by day , mybe its going to this direction coz u accepted it .
    I remember about 2 years ago when gw2 released POF , for the first time they added an rng box that gave u random mount skin for a veey cheap attemp , but players didnt accept , we started making forum posts , sending tickets and more . So in days the head of arena net , came and apologized and then they changed the system for those boxes, and keep in mind those boxes werent about progression , it had no effect on game coz it was purely cosmetic.
    But here every thing depends on rng . Thats the most frustrating system ever.
    If you be like those lazy people with no energy to tell them ur not ok with it , or too dissapointed to even bother , they keep doing it n make it even worst
     
  5. Fearless V

    Fearless V FearlessBeing Ranger 61 NA

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    That's because Relevant Western Devs. actually care, communicate, host in game events, and even PvP with players in their games.

    Relevant Korean Devs are heartless and soulless. They don't care about their game lasting or even the reputation they get. They just care about the quick and easy money they'll get before their games implode.

    It really two different dev. cultures. Where as history has proven time and time again. Korean devs. rather their games implode than to change their models. Relevant Western Devs on the other hand are the complete opposite. Devs. are very active with the community in those MMOs.
     
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  6. Vanadiel

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    It is not really needed. EVE online has been in existence way longer than this game, and does not use RNG.
    There are others, like WOW that do not use equipment RNG and are doing just fine.

    RNG is put in because it is a cheap system to implement, while at the same time generates a lot of revenue once players are hooked on it.
    They got the idea from Casino's. But they improved upon it by not giving you real money if you "win". Instead they give you virtual rewards, that cost them nothing but cost you money to get.
     
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    Thank you! I hope people understand this game like we did.
     
  8. Kauni

    Kauni Archer 62 EU

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    WoW has no rng? What? WoW has always had RNG since 2004 and still does.
    Are you gonna say that the bosses always drop exactly the items you need and the weekly chests as well?
     
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  9. Vanadiel

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    No, I did not say that. I did say "equipment RNG", not drop RNG. What you refer to is drop RNG.
    This game has both drop RNG, and equipment RNG.

    Imagine if WOW, after randomly dropping a piece of boss gear, had you upgrade that gear all the way to TET/PEN to be able to do the next raid/dungeon?
     
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  10. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    well but u keep your gear in bdo - in wow u need to drop the best gear and when new stuff comes out u need to drop new gear again etc
    in bdo u drop it and enhance it and keep it
     
  11. Fearless V

    Fearless V FearlessBeing Ranger 61 NA

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    THEY ARE RELEASING NEW GEAR IN BDO NOW TO MAKE THE OLD GEAR OBSOLETE NOW! What do you think Blackstar is? What do you think the new earring is? NEW GEAR TO MAKE THE OLD GEAR OBSOLETE! And you think they are going to stop there? LAUGHABLE AT BEST IF SO!

    Come on now I expect you to be much smarter than this. Is this your first MMO or something? The thing is in BDO it's all cash shop driven while in WoW you just needed to buy Sub and you was good to go. None of this predatorial RNG on every nook and cranny of the game to highly inflate the value of the cash shop to before unheard levels in the MMO genre. Also because of said extreme emphasis on RNG backed by the cash shop. They artificially created a caste system of the Haves (Lucky accounts that can one tap PENs at less than 62 FSs or get TET Ogre Rings in succession.) and the Have Nots (Unlucky accounts that have been playing for years and yet to see a boss drop, and continuously fails TETs at 100 plus FSs.)

    Comparing BDO a P2W Content Dry RNG Gear Based Korean Grinder and WoW a actual fully featured MMORPG. Is like comparing Apples to Oranges. Just saying is all.

    Damn i can't believe I allowed a being like yourself, of all the beings of this multi-verse to get under my skin a tiny bit. Congratulations you have done what less than a hand full, have actually been able to achieve. Give yourself a pat on the back!
     
  12. Rügenwalder Pommersche

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    well yes NOW they did release blackstar, but u dont lose ur kzarka, nor does it instantly become obsolete, its "only" one step worse, new earing is more ap but less dp so thats not "better" its just a different direction
     
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  13. Kauni

    Kauni Archer 62 EU

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    Because WoW has no enhancing system? It does has the equipment rng tho. Boss drops equipment and it's rng, right? :-)
     
  14. Joungf

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    Hmmm, I tried to sell my ultimate orange gear and buy the next higher ultimate one one .....
    No ultimate anymore, not able to sell on MP. OK, no "big" issue. I compared the green tet with ultimate tri ones. What the heck!
     
  15. Boink

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    You have to remove the reform stone. You can buy them at any blacksmith.
     
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  16. Joungf

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    Armor peaces with "Ultimat" do not appear in MP and those armor peaces without any stone (all stones removed and durability 100 of 100) can not be sold in MP. That is my experience. I also do not see any orange "ultimate" armor in MP.
     
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    There are no more ultimate anymore. Guess they want to remove the clutter. Just go search for enhanced base and upgrade it with the reform stone.
     
  18. Phoenixxx75

    Phoenixxx75 Lahn 60 NA

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    The person told you what you need to do. Quite awhile ago they bought in this system because of the fact that green items were selling for more than the ultimate version. Now you go to a blacksmith and buy an item that is used to remove the upgrade stone and then you have back the green item which you can sell plus the upgrade stone.
     
  19. Joungf

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    Thanks. I read his post again. Now I got it.
    By the way, this is a really nice example how PA / Kakao love to make existing game mechanic unnecessarily more complicated.
     
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  20. Vanadiel

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    Yes, same as BDO. It is what is after that what is different.
     
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