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Season Servers brought me back to BDO

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Edegia, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. IWalkAlone

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    Seasonal servers just show how this game just cant work without PvP... well it can with 2536354645 servers...or single play mode.SO many people complain that there is no free space.
     
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  2. woots

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    like i bet you remove drop rate boost on arsha no one would go there.

    That remark is pretty stupid, as its a grindfest game. And the grind spot mechanic ( /s ) isnt interesting to alone make player go grind just for the sake of grinding.
    ( even if in the polly case, you mainly go there for the SP)

    For now it only show that, this game isnt made to welcome SO much (active) players in a same channel.
    Heck, it show that this game isnt made to only pack players at the same few grindspot and forget more than 70% of them
    Pvp wouldnt solve anything beside enforcing an illusionary power feeling of somes little amount of players using it, at the expense of a lot of players. Which would make the situation FAR worse.

    But one thing i will agree on, is that its pretty stupid to not have directly enabled the seasonl arsha channel for thoses willing to "pvp"

    At least with that situation bothering "flag user", you will understand how players disliking having to deal with others forcing pvp on them feel, as the level of annoyance might be on the same level.
     
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  3. IWalkAlone

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    With so many chanells already you cant grind in peace, how many chanels gona be needed.And they put so few for Seasons.It needs major redisgn.
    Im not sure that this will be good idea.I mean the server is meant to be a catch up mechanic.If they ad one Arsha server like now there wont be progress.Try to farm on Arsha on rush hours, you will find it a lot less profitable than normal servers.
     
  4. woots

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    You grind in peace 95% of the time, that :"you cant grind in peace" only come from very stubborn players that think they are special snowflake and others have to "respect" the illusonary "all thoses 300mobs are mine and you cant touch them"
    98% of the time i cant grind in peace its because there is pepega flag user thinking the world have to be their because they force pvp.
    As for pve alone, if you correctly pick your grindspot, so correctly adapt, no nobody is going to be able to "mob starve" you.

    But yeah they should had tweaked many of the others grindspot to have far more of them interesting, that's for sure, especialy as Tuvala set more limit on the powercreep

    wait ? you want pvp but you dont want pvp channel ?

    And i will never farm on arsha, because i dont want, as much as possible to deal with that BDO "pvp" (irony iside) sh#t show.
     
  5. Kynreaa

    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    You are getting hung up on peoples personal wants instead of what the reason for having openworld PvP is for to begin with.
    You are dealing with the pvp s$%t show now. they just turned it off. The game is built with it in mind, just taking it out has a domino effect you guys are willfully ignoring, yet see the consequences right in your face.

    The regular channels were not perfect, but removing another system like they did with arsha as a simple fix is obviously not the solution. We tried to tell you guys that. Alot more needed to be done with the regular system before this was added.
     
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  6. MoonDance17

    MoonDance17 Lahn 61 NA

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    The first step would have been not cramming ninety percent plus of the player base onto five channels. If there were enough channels to have the same proportion of players to the normal server population I doubt it would be a problem at all.
     
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    Kynreaa DarkKnight 62

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    Thats just kicking the can down the road..How is it good design to not be able to handle full channels? The regular channels handled them fine.
     
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  8. Sadalsuud

    Sadalsuud Tamer 62 EU

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    ... Allowing every player to have his own private pve paradise and avoid any interaction with others... Aaaah Heaven...

    Season Servers are a nightmare for grind, everyone's jumping on mobs without any respect for others. The only moment where players are interacting in open fields are platoon for quests.

    At least, with pvp, the opponent acknowledges your presence. Without pvp, they can simply ignore you all they want.

    Anyway, those season servers proves one thing : toxicity is not linked to pve nor pvp, it's linked to players.
     
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  9. IWalkAlone

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    Wait.. maybe I cant understand you... you grind in peace 95% of the time but you cant grind in peace98% of the time????????????
    If you talking about this 95%about season server I will strongly disagree.Specaily if you are melee.I play with kuno and ranger.Kuno is nightmare to get to mobs, but with ranger is walk in a park, just ignoring everyone else.
    That work on non popular spots.Try to find peace farming on popular spots.Did you try potion spots lately?
    I want PvP, but I said that specificaly a PvP chanel(one only) in seasons will be pointless.Isnt the idea of Season faster growing?One chanel will make progression slower not faster.
    Basicaly what Kynreaa says
     
  10. IWalkAlone

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    This is something many people cant understand, and probably will jump on you.
     
  11. woots

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    You need to read again.
    95% of the time you grind in peace
    98% of the time i was annoyed while grinding.


    You still want to be able to flag, but you dont want pvp channel because you consider that flag is a progression obstacle.
    You need to have your things straight.

    As usual, it all lead back to : PA arent good gamedesigner, and never will, and neither really care about owpvp

    The regular channel are cancer because it force player not willing to deal with that flag sh#t show to be part of.
    And it force player willing to play with flag to deal with players not willing to play by their rules.

    There will never have a correct middle ground ( even tho the current one is the least worse considering the bad PA gamedesginer and their entiltement at not definitely create a split between pve channels & flag on channels )

    You mean use the gear power as carott to have you casino-p2w hard enough because it play on personal pride to have your character killed without beeing able to do sh#t like a real pvp game would allow ?
    As that game resolve all around gear2win and GS "caste" to give power feeling without that much resolving around skill to win ?

    And i speak about what player "want" because there is no other use of the flag if you exclude all actual above general reasons.
     
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  12. woots

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    Yet funny enough for the first time in 5 years there is "actual" pve channel ( even if that's a season thing only ), and players used to force pvp on others now cant, and its for them a "disaster".

    Now you get how it feel to have something you dont like beeing forced on you ( as apparently it was something out of flag user reach to get that ) And you might now get why players ( so thoses willing to have a pure pve alternative ) want to have a real choice.
     
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    I mean you can cry all you want after season ends and you're "forced" into regular servers and you're gonna get fed to mobs

    I don't care about season servers in the slightest and my only interaction with it is gonna be leeching quests to get my lootscrolls but you're just trying to run from the future when you'll eventually have to duel for your spot or get fed to mobs
     
  14. MoonDance17

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    No they did not. The main channels have rarely if ever been crowded except for the very early days. I have played since launch with a few breaks here and there and have never seen any non Olvia servers with a crowded status. The seasonal servers are crowded because they made too few.
     
  15. IWalkAlone

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    You just dont want to understand...One PvP server wont solve the problem with overpopulation.You gona have tons of people PvPing for the spot and not grinding.Yes it will be fun, but when you log in seasonal to make faster progression kinda kills the idea.Regular servers are ok, you can grind and made some PvPs that dont break your grinding(if you win).Seasons to work, you gona nead same amount of servers.
     
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    Strange that is what you think anyone is asking for here. The main request is simply to have the same player density as the regular servers. That cannot happen if you have over ninety percent of players on less than one fifth of the servers. Can you do math?
     
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  17. IWalkAlone

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    Few things.
    First - this wont happen atm.They didnt ad more severs but turn few existing to Season.So the cant turn all servers to seasonal, and sadly atleast for now the dont plan to add more.
    Second - If they add more servers, it will the way it works now, if you thing now that the PK is griefer, then you gona have just different type of griefing - killing over you.
    The game is designed this.To work it needs redesign.
     
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  18. Sadalsuud

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    Maths are not needed, the problem is that grind spots are poorly designed, party mechanics too, and putting more channels does not solve it, it simply avoids it. It also emphasizes the idea that this game without owpvp is simply shifting from one possible toxicity to another one.

    You're simply asking for a band-aid on a broken leg, BDO doesn't need more reason to play solo, it needs more reasons to cooperate and conflict on one type of channel only.
     
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    The issue with PvE is really more complex and can not be solved by just adding more seasonal / PvE channels, as you mentioned.
    Because the whole game mechanic bases on creating conflicts and envy in every corner of this game, a PvE server needs to be designed from scratch.
     
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    Not much to disagree with on the points you quoted from me. I mean, your right. its gonna take ALOT more then what any one suggestion from any of us can come up with as a valid solution.
    I mean I could fix it. Everyone would be happy, BDO would perhaps put everyother MMO out of business, PA would become the new tencent, etc. but I dont work for PA so. F$%k it. Seriously, if PvE is what you guys wanted, and this is what satisfies you, have at it.

    This is it guys, this is the best PA has got. this is how they address the pve'ers wants, Arsha is the BS they tossed us to pacify some others wants, the regular channels is their vision. And the Cash shop is gonna be the future content. So tell PA they got it right, an buy up them passes boys. You know what to expect in the future.
     
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