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Second Balancing Survey!

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Greeniewolf, May 14, 2019.

  1. FrozenReaper

    FrozenReaper Archer 62 EU

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    another useless survey, should be aware by now that they are not capable of handeling class balance at any way
     
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  2. Ѧ| Chaotic

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    To be honest, pearl abyss will balance all classes much better than any of you ever will. You all will have different opinions but that does not make it better, there is more thinking Involved in balancing this games classes then you think you know and only people that know better is the class balancing department themselves from PA, it's their game and they have the overall bigger vision for their classes.

    Make your own game and I would love to see some of y'all know it all's class balances, it is NOT easier than it seems.

    Have a good day everyone! :)
     
  3. Montblanc

    Montblanc SunriseHerbGang Valkyrie 62 EU

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    Then why some classes did 30%/40% more money than others per hour? They could try to balance by increased the PvE damage every patch to the point almost all the classes has similar grind speed but.... archer doing 8k trash/hour at aakman, warrior lees than 5k; lhan/mystic/sorce 4k trashg/hour at hystria and striker didnt get the 3k... Where is the balance? If you play a good class your progression is really faster than the "bad" classes. Its not all about PvP, on PvP you have to think about duel 1v1, small scale, node, siegue... its harder, but some classes need love.

    They are not even trying, thats our problem, if every patch tries to balance we cant cry, but "Fixed the issue where the character's appearance from behind would look unnatural in the character selection window when wearing the Basic outf" thats all what we can read.
     
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  4. Vanadiel

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    Sounds more like a targeted survey with the intend to only sample a small # of the overall player base.
     
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  5. 2Cents

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    Pearl Abyss has intentionally ensured the game is not balanced so they could blatantly abuse their own cash shop.
    They also created complete ANTI PVP mechanics like a massive passive magic DP boost.

    They allowed characters to PK for 1% loss while not being able to lose exp at 0% ( MAJOR EXPLOIT )
    They allow players to unflag in the middle of a fight
    They allowed chain grapple
    They allowed near infinite dash
    They allowed infinite iframe

    If it was a matter of concepts and not the coding nearly anyone could do a better job.
     
  6. Silowyi

    Silowyi Wizard NA

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    Why even bother with this survey? Even if we submit it to PA they will just make copies and use it as toilet paper.
     
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  7. Silowyi

    Silowyi Wizard NA

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    LOL same. I dont think Ill drop a dime on this game ever again. Not saying never, just saying it doesnt look like Ill ever do.
     
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  8. Narktember

    Narktember Narktember DarkKnight 61 NA

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    classes have to change make game good
     
  9. Narktember

    Narktember Narktember DarkKnight 61 NA

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    even if PA doesn't listen to the changes we have suggested there is a chance that they will realize that changes are needed if they want people to keep playing their broken game
     
  10. Blitzball

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    Make a korean survey and post it on korean forums . Don't forget to add a lot of dead corpses emoji so they will probably listen like they did for the last Witch buff :D
     
  11. Xenon

    Xenon Kallitren Ninja 61 NA

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    My responses are in red.
     
  12. 2Cents

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    That's nice theory crafting, but you should try playing the game. More specifically you should try playing Witch or DK vs Striker.
    It sounds like all your reference are in battlefield/sieges where these defects would be buried.

    It also makes me question how much you know about the game or if you even play much. How did you not notice Striker online for months after the release?

    And you did nothing to justify bonus Magic DP. Striker runs around 1 comboing nearly the entire server with a basic grab. Why would they even need a magic DP bonus?

    You complain about Witch/Wizard accuracy boost, yet when was the last time you where NOT ABLE TO HIT THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR EVASION...................... NEVER......so you may as well have 100% accuracy boost to all your skills.
     
  13. Decem

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    So you want to keep SA for every class but strip warrior/valk out of LSA ? Thats good idea. Every class had spammable SA which was chainable.
    Warrior had to block every 2.5s to get this advantage so basically its the same thing. You just dont understand few things which is okay.
     
  14. Dexo 2

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    First off i've played warrior back in the lingering SA days and it was very op before mystic came out. Second, you can simply add more sa skills instead of lsa. Thats what all warrior were saying back in the day when people complained about lsa. Remove lsa but add sa skills.
     
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    I think the question of some classes being overpowered is flawed in itself. Those classes are about where they should be, it is that some classes are UNDER powered that is the problem. They should be brought up to catch up to the classes that are performing well.
     
  16. Greeniewolf

    Greeniewolf Kunoichi 61

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  17. Greeniewolf

    Greeniewolf Kunoichi 61

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    All classes presented in this survey were determined by the communitiy's responses to our previous survey.
     
  18. flukeSG1

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    Is this survey related to the Feedback Library Surveys? They seem to be two different things.
     
  19. Greeniewolf

    Greeniewolf Kunoichi 61

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    They are not related. The feedback library started their surveys after we launched our second survey on this issue after we received a significant number of responses and feedback from our first. They are devoting a week to each class to get an idea of what people think of each class and get only the most general ideas of where there are problems.
    We, on the other hand, are trying to pin down specific, actionable changes that can be made to actually improve the balance of the game and make it as fun as possible.
     
  20. flukeSG1

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    Seems counterproductive to me to create an entirely new survey covering the same subject matter, especially so when the other one is a semi-official.
     

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