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Shai's outfits are censored

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by DosonTheGreat, Jun 19, 2019.

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  1. DosonTheGreat

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    Yeah it does actually, in a large number of western countries. Not that showing a chracter's knees is in any way child pornography. There are games why way more objectionable content featuring child or child-like characters that get localized.
     
  2. NotMoroku

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    But she isn't sexually scrutinized... I don't get it.

    I would get it if Shai had some sort of sexual appeal. It's just a character in a game that isn't even a child. How is TERA getting away with it now? En Masse is a NA publisher that is allowing the "child-like race" Elin to be sexually scrutinized via revealing clothing/outfits. Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

    What about the Lalafell in FFXIV?
     
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  3. DosonTheGreat

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    Every single costume in the character creator is censored. I wonder how many will be left uncensored in the game? Not very many options for people who don't want to support puritanical nonsense.
     
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    Imo an actual pedophile would just find a way to install a nude mod and stay quiet about it. He wouldn't post on public forums, so I'm sorry to say but people that keep accusing eachother of being pedos are just stupid.
    The shai class being censored or not does not affect anyone so i really find no point arguing about it.
     
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    Honestly, I don't think anyone's interest has been hurt by this decision and I'm only referring to healthy, normal humans.

    Since the basic proportions can be adjusted to free will, this is more than fine and enough.
     
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  6. Zelxski

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    What, really? I haven't started the customization process yet, but that is sad to hear.

    Don't worry about people on here, these people are whining to cover up their own ignorance and guilt. Usually the so called hero's standing up for what is supposed to be right are committing the very crime they are fighting against. Gay rights movement is fighting against oppression as they themselves proceed to oppress all those who respect their rights but disagree with their life. PoC is fighting against minority discrimination as they proceed to discriminate against those who are not a minority. Shai haters are fighting against Pedo's while they proceed toss their own kids into the the arms of a real pedo (either a father or male friend) b.c realistically speaking, they have no real idea about how to spot a pedo.

    I told my friend not to leave her kids alone with their dad or uncle b.c something wasn't right, but she didn't listen and now she is in court b.c them jerks were doing stuff to her baby. You don't identify a pedo b.c they play a child character in game, you identify them in real life with actual hints and signs from the pedo and the child being molested. Don't even argue with these people on here, they so busy feeling like they are taking a stand against pedo's that they are just happily turning a blind eye to the pedo sitting right in the house with them now (the kids father, uncle, a male friend, their teacher, your boyfriend and even the kids own brothers or sisters.)
     
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    Huh?
     
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    Your comments are completely devoid of fact and understanding of human reactions to representations of human like characters.

    The argument is not about the char itself it is about the PERSON that started this thread and not being able to see a representation that OTHERS see as a child AVI being put in underwear so "They can make them look like something"..

    You can personally call the shai whatever you want to. pixle representation of "WHAT?" Becouse she doesnt represent a COW, HORSE, BUG , ANIMAL OR PLANT what does it LOOK like becouse if your going to tell me it doesn't "LOOK" Human than I call BS..
    People making it look like a 8 year old manga LOLI is the part we are trying to avoid here..
     
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    Go read the Shai Lore page. She is 30, no matter what your creepiness thinks she looks.
     
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  10. DosonTheGreat

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    You know I was just thinking if devs want to censor their game why not add a censor button? Instead, people who want to enjoy original costumes must use third-party mods.
     
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    How is any of what I said devoid of fact? You can't spot a pedo b.c someone chooses to create a child character. Wanting your character to be small and little as possible doesn't equal pedo either. That is my statement. Also, it is proven fact that most child molestation acts are done by a close relative or friend and rarely by some random creeper on the Internet (it does happen to, but not as often as the family members or relatives). Most children are molested by the father, uncle, boyfriend or male friend of the family. Sometimes the aunt and teachers are culprits to. These are all facts you can look up yourself.

    We should be fighting against sexualized outfits, not the ability to make a character adorable. Sex and cuteness sells like hot cakes. People love cute, and others love sex, some like both. When they make shai a thong then go get a pitch fork and try to kill someone, but when someone is trying to gush over cuteness, then you need to sit your behinds down and let them squeal and frolic through the daisy's singing annie songs.
     
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    So you are basing it off of people's feelings and how it is represented to them? Weren't you just quoting some federal law or something earlier? How did it come to feelings and how it is represented to a single individual again?

    This is what is wrong with people. The world is so confusing now due to how two different cultures and societies mix and they try to make sure no one is offended on either side. They completely throw out facts and logic so that no one gets hurt.

    She is a game character who had no sexual appeal. If she has sexual appeal and is called out by these same people who demand it to be censored due to her looking "child-like" shouldn't you be speaking to them instead? Why are they looking at this character as a child and being sexually aroused by it? They are the real criminal. Don't just censor something based off of feelings.

    You haven't answered how all these other companies are getting away with it if it is a federal law. All I see is "feelings" and "how it represents to people". You don't speak for me or others on these forums. I respect your opinion, but don't let your opinion censor how I feel as well.

    That is what brings up a horrible society of one-side "wokeness".
     
  13. Ben Phoenix

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    What does really change for you if the Shai class is wearing that kind of outfits? They actually fit their race imo, I mean, would really a Shai go around with something like Enslar, for example? Every class has its own kind of outfit here in BDO, I was expecting the same for the Shai class honestly.
     
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  14. Tenerezza

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    Can someone please explain to me why this isn't a issue in example other large MMO's take example FF14? Where the potato race looks like toddler, got lots of underwear, bikinis not to mention underwear in character creation with chest sliders. Why is this such a issue here? Wtf wrong with peoples who cannot handle some skin or underwear for the matter.

    Also why was extra piece of cloth added? It's basically mess with ALL of her example costumes some worse then others and some of them become really ugly thanks to it, hell i wont consider buying some of the costumes because they really look terrible with the additions, Please do a better job at this thanks, there is sooo many other things you could have done that wouldnt mess with her clothing and look.

    Also what the plans to make sure Shai also can obtain the 8 piece Costume set bonus like other races have? Or will this not be adresser?
     

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  15. Nagasaki

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    Well.. we’re playing BDO, right? I’m not playing FF am I?
    Also that looks like a sack of potato.
     
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    Your moral outcry and virtue signalling matters very little to me and I couldn't care less how uncomfortable you feel about it; this is your personal problem, projecting it on others and demand acknowledgement won't really help and it definitely won't help real children victims and won't place the real offenders behind the bars. I don't feel inclined in any way to take responsibility for those problems of yours, either. I just want to play a computer game the way devs wanted it to be played, that's it.

    We live in a day of social outrage, with people taking offence over their hurt "feelings"; emotions over facts. This is exactly why societies collapse, when reason gets replaced by reactive behaviour based on one's whims. Behaviour that's utterly destructive in nature - because humans are egotistical creatures - and would rather avoid threatening issues, as long as they don't affect them directly.

    What a day to live in.
     
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  17. Zelxski

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    Here you go, a little info on how child molestation works and how to identify it:

    https://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens


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    Sources:
    1. United States Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families, Administration on Children, Youth and Families, Children’s Bureau. Child Maltreatment Survey, 2016 (2018).
    2. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Sex Offenses and Offenders (1997).
    3. David Finkelhor, Anne Shattuck, Heather A. Turner, & Sherry L. Hamby, The Lifetime Prevalence of Child Sexual Abuse and Sexual Assault Assessed in Late Adolescence, 55 Journal of Adolescent Health 329, 329-333 (2014)
    4. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Sexual Assault of Young Children as Reported to Law Enforcement (2000).
    5. H.M Zinzow, H.S. Resnick, J.L. McCauley, A.B. Amstadter, K.J. Ruggiero, & D.G. Kilpatrick, Prevalence and risk of psychiatric disorders as a function of variant rape histories: results from a national survey of women. Social psychiatry and psychiatric epidemiology, 47(6), 893-902 (2012).
    6. United States Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families, Administration on Children, Youth and Families, Children’s Bureau. Child Maltreatment Survey, 2016 (2018).
    If you look up more sources you will find child molestation has nothing to do with how YOU PERSONALLY FEEL it happens. It doesn't happen b.c people like cute things and making tiny characters who are so adorable you can die, its the other person you would never expect, the manly man, the best friend, the one bullying people on here for liking cute things, and confusing liking cute for pedo.
     
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    And the devs wanted the customisation the be the way it is right now. End of thread.
     
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  19. Tenerezza

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    Indeed your not, but it's still a proper question, so many peoples throw the legality thing around when it'¨s a non factor here.
     
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    The outfits are age- and theme-appropriate.
    If you'd spent any time out in the western world, you'd know it's not typically okay to promote the sexualisation of children.
    Go look for your zettai ryouiki elsewhere.
     
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