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Shai's outfits are censored

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by DosonTheGreat, Jun 19, 2019.

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  1. magret

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    So there are waaaaaaaaaaaay more than one obviouuus reason, and they are all ineffable. Cool beans, good story.
    I got to go now, wanted to see the little house in the prairie again before it gets all censored.
     
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  2. Narcosis

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    If you'd read what I wrote ages ago in one of my posts, you'd know that's not the case.
    1. There's no precise info, nor data as to which costumes will come to EU/NA, if they will ever come at all. The reason for this might be simple - if the game had to be censored for something as simple as covering the legs from the knees up, you're expecting them to release swimwear and underwear costumes for Shai? We might get different costumes, or costumes that will be censored as well for that matter. As it is obvious, no one playing Shai will buy these.
    2. I inspected the game files. People are getting it all wrong. What they see in the character creator are two differently censored models. One is the default naked body, which got swapped from the original base underwear model (one all the other races have) to the new pyjamas; second one are the different outfits/costumes. The censored portions added to those models are basically an additional layer, which is completely separate from the new censored underwear. I REPEAT - IT'S NOT THE UNDERWEAR YOU SEE WHEN YOU EDIT THE BODY. What it means, that regardless of the underwear your character will be wearing, the censored portions will be still visible and neither will the cash shop costume underwear/swimwear make them disappear. This is intentional.
    As it stands now, this censorship is completely pointless. Not only does it nothing to actually censor (because there's nothing to censor to start with) but also ruins the beautiful outfit and costume designs the dev team artists poured so much work into. If I were to expand, this entire thing also reeks of female discrimination, especially if we're talking about petite women. Gals also play this game, for a matter of fact.

    The sole reason our publisher is also remaining completely secretive about this entire situation and either avoids or outright refuses to publish any sort of public announcement regarding the censoring remains very shady. This is a change that will impact many players, of which a lot will be returning as well and they most probably won't take it lightly.

    From whom and what are you actually trying to protect the playerbase, Kakao Games?
     
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  3. o0ABC0o

    o0ABC0o Shai 61 EU

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    From girls like me to waste too much money on that game.
    #thanks_kakao
     
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  4. Meso

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    Same with my gf, she won't be buying anything for her Shai. And if i do, it will just be off the mp, rather spend a tiny amount of time getting 200m then spending $30+ on an outfit anymore.
     
  5. zhagsten

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    Everybody knows why there's censorship, where it comes from. It's not like we don't know what kind of people work at Kakao EU. But this topic is pretty much only about the sloppy work doing so. You want this topic to be about something else, but people keep telling you to come back to the topic. So maybe you are wrong.
     
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  6. Narcosis

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    Meanwhile in UK: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...bled-mother-to-have-abortion-against-her-will

    Having money for thousands of unemployed, illegal immigrants but not having even a bit to support a young disabled mother and her future child. Disregarding her mother's willingness to take care of both of them. Judging what's "better" for the two and finally stating the child will be a burden, both for the mother and the country. Sounds familiar, eh?

    What a beautiful world we're living in.
     
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  7. aethericAnuran

    aethericAnuran Shai 59 NA

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    That's disheartening to say the least if that's still the behavior of the models when the class goes live. It's just the sloppiest thing they could have done.
     
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  8. Meso

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    Wow, that is just disgusting
     
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  9. Isengrade

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    Sincerely ... i don't understand the subjet.
    Some players have been offensed by the Shai original suit ?

    Stop pvp and take some time to start reading character story please : Shai have 30 years old !
    She 's not a child !
    Is somebody of you have seen a child in the pic below ?
    If yes please stop playing FF and zelda & all those kinds of game with small scale size character and throw you game box
    by the windows due to something wrong with your mind !

    I think we should revisit lot of things like :
    - Serge Gainsbourg with his famous cigarette - Done :-(
    - Winston Churchill with his famous cigar- Not yet done - but i hope soonly due to healthy association ( trolling )
    - ......... I stop here but you can complete by what you want here.

    We are lucky ... they don't use animals as characters with pijama ... twisted thinking ( trolling )

    Obviously I thinks seriously that lot of people don't make a well-considered thinking between subject.

    B.R
     

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  10. Catastigma

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    The cencore is more attractive that a completly nude body....
    Pijama>Skin

    Thier plan is a faillure. lul
     
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  11. MagicalTabletopGirls

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    Yeah Gearbox & Sega got sued over it, Sega settled. See: Aliens Colonial Marines. The only thing the entire industry has learned since then was to call them cinematic trailers so they can never get sued again. This is also why you constantly hear YouTubers say "where is the actual gameplay" when every new trailer comes out. Even with Cyberpunk 2077 gamers are starting to wonder, where is the actual gameplay. BDO's cinematic trailers are fantastic... The problem Is they are too fantastic. Why? Because I really want to play THAT game. :(

    Guys, I'll save you the trouble. I'm pretty sure the real answer we aren't getting is Kakao Games is in the EU and while everything out of Asia is protected under the First Amendment with this exact issue being ruled upon by the US Supreme Court, in Europe they don't have the same freedoms we do. They arrest you for offensive jokes & tweets for crying out loud. It's a pretty backwards & regressive place.

    The solution is simple when Pearl Abyss takes back full control of its IP then the EU's chokehold on a the NA servers ENDS. You guys will get the Merkel version and we will get the Asian version. Get a VPN to enjoy the sweet taste of freedom.

    (Ironic isn't it? All these Europeans who claim they want a Global Market and Globalism all culturals are equal yada yada yada... really have a hateboner for Asian culture; just an observation. We see the same thing in San Francisco its not just in the EU we have the exact same group of hypocrites. O hi SOYN what's that, you moved your HQ to San Fran and now you are getting all ultra woke & going broke. Long live Nintendo!)
     
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  12. Narcosis

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    Kakao Games is a subsidiary of Kakao (formerly DAUM Kakao), they are a korean company working under korean law jurisdiction. This has nothing to do with it. The only thing that comes to my mind is the korean government crackdown on inappropriate and offensive content. Whilst heavy censorship isn't anything new in South Korea, lately they've been pushing it pretty hard, reaching as far as to anime artists, manga and hobbyist publications. Plenty of artists I knew had to officially back down from their jobs, otherwise risking legal action and even jail. South Korea is especially bonkers about sexual content; pornography and any sexual depictions - fictional or otherwise - are strictly banned under South Korean law.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with it, as their government went batshit crazy about "protecting children".
     
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  13. ghoulz666

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    If that's the case then why are they selling Kibelus for the Tamer...?
     
  14. Narcosis

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    It all doesn't make sense, honestly. If Kakao Games is korean and has a western-based subsidiary or in-house office to handle the overseas communications and PR for EU/NA and other sectors, I wouldn't personally see any sense in censoring BDO just for us because korean laws regarding what's allowed in entertainment are much stricter and draconic than those of any western countries.... maybe aside from Australia?

    This is why I'd really like for Kakao Games to officially clarify as to what happened. If they were forced by korean government, I'd be able to understand, otherwise they have no excuse.
     
  15. Fateneko

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    Tbh, that's the the only thing puzzling me. What is so wrong with having two differently colored eyes?
     
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  16. DosonTheGreat

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    That's why I hate globalism. "global standards" just means garbage for the whole world and you have no choice. Even though the EU has dumb laws regarding free speech and free expression, I do not think they are so extreme that they are the reason for the censorship here. I think it is someone within Kakao that has decided it offends THEIR sensibilities, and they know they can't delete the class from the game, so they want to sabotage it as much as they are allowed to. I mean, really look at the leggings... Who wears leggings like that? Usually they are cut above the knee or go all the way down to your feet. They look very odd and out of place with those outfits, especially the one with the green top.

    You talk about PA regaining rights from Kakao, but will that happen?

    Yeah, South Korea is pretty much the Europe of East Asia.

    Because there are more than 2 eye colors. There is a whole spectrum of eye colors.
     
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  17. Fateneko

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    I worded that wrong XO
     
  18. Extrabone

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    To the people asking about the "Why", the answer is simple; damage control.

    The BDO community saw the youthful Asian looking halfling and many people started to overreact by assuming that some fictional being whose lifespan that is half than that of a normal humans (probably due to the races rate of aging being double that of humans too despite retaining their youthful features, cuz ayylmao magic n fantasy logic) is somehow akin to an immature, prepubescent human child character that was created for the sole purpose to be a hypersexualized class to tickle the fancy of pedophiles.

    Kakao/PA did not want to suffer profit loss by potentially damaging their reputation with the NA community by ignoring the "outrage" of the masses whining subconscious-closet-pedos whose first thoughts from seeing the new Shai class was something sexual, projecting their internalized perverseness onto the others who just wanted to play a new class that looks cute. Because of this, they decided to censor the outfits to look like some tacky granny nightgown to keep those who looked forward to playing the new class happy, and the others who were opposed to its eventual release.
     
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  19. ghoulz666

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    You must be looking at something else. Sounds like you're describing the Elin....
     
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    Because 85% occidental people have perverse thoughts, new fashion mentality is to say pedobear or to think it, when they see a child in the games and not only in game as can be seen in chat on streaming platform you can see that people have no restraint to say openly nonsense..
    But also the games comply with the rules of region to be in their conditions for enjoy the game I think. so I validate totally their choice of censorship.
     
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