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Simple solution to Grabs

Discussion in 'PvP' started by Exitious1, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Itago

    Itago Witch 62 EU

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    Read it in contect to what was quoted, not so much troll anymore. If Wiz/Witch were as strong against other classes are Striker/Mystic is against W/W i dont think we would see much more than those 4 classes anywhere
     
  2. Jollywand

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    yeah i dont really see the skill involved in be absolutly immune to cc but ok
     
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  3. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    damn. if only there werent classes with 2+ sec casting without animation cancel options that were rooted to place while casting....
     
  4. alex20081

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    grabs in this game became like a cheat. your personal skill is not matter - the one who grabs first win pvp. for class with no grab it is suffering.
    i think again that 1shot grab combo should not exist.
    suggestions - CC count for grab = 2 with no control extension. or at least grabs should not ignore SA.
    Grabs are too OP in this cc system.
     
  5. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    what is op is ap scaling above softcap. they overtuned it in order to make people enhance.
     
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  6. Foggen

    Foggen Musa 63 NA

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    I'd go the other direction. Make FG grabbable but make any damage cancel the grab or make any attack "tech" the grab. The rock-paper-scissors of attacks, blocks, and throws from fighting games assumes that attacks beat throws, block beats attacks, and throws beat blocks. Right now in BDO grabs beat everything, and that's especially unbalanced considering how some classes can't do them.
     
  7. Exitious1

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    Not a bad option
     
  8. RP Tzuyu

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    damn only if they don't do so much dmg with 50-60ap less and full SA while casting
     
  9. RP Tzuyu

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    lets throw the longest ass skill animation out in the open field and see if I can oneshot them,
    if u can't cc them, u can't oneshot them... u still in animation, u just literally tell everyone, come and rape me
     
  10. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    so... which fast casting skills would you use on those classes, help us out here?
     
  11. Mattys

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    This is how it should be. It would give everyone chance to fight back against grabs and it's very logical.
     
  12. Shakur

    Shakur Musa 62 EU

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    how about this? you have to cc before you can grab someone result = normal cd

    if you grab someone before you landed a cc you get a much higher cd on grab.

    this reduces cheap grab "tactics" it aint perfect but still better than it is now.

    if it works PA could consider things like: own cc or cc of others if it counts the same or seperate it in order to grab and the different cd's out of it.
     
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    Grabs should be treated similarly to Freezes. After having successfully grabbed a target your damage to said target is reduced by 50% for 10 seconds. Grabs are an unavoidable cc, and absolutely necessary for those who posses them. However just because you can grab doesnt mean you should win an engagement, yet this is how it behaves currently. If players who had a grab artificially did less damage after they performed them they would have be forced to execute many times over for a kill, which is the way it should be for a cc thats more or less guaranteed.
     
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  14. Tvvin

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    Sorc player^

    Gl have fun


    The developers make certain characters excel in different forms of PvP. Your wizard class excels in node war and small scale. You aren't a duelist. Don't expect to be equal to one

    Also youre able to call for assistance in open world. I do this for a witch friends daily
     
  15. farsay

    farsay Mystic 62 NA

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    You are crying about grabs when wizards and witch’s have PA that makes them invulnerable to all damage while using their insane dps skills. This community is hopeless.
     
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  16. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    insane dps skills? :D

    you are aware that we actually have kinda low dps, right? damage per skill might be high, but dps is not.
     
  17. Jaeger

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    Super armor should be immune against grabs but your idea is not bad also
     
  18. farsay

    farsay Mystic 62 NA

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    there should be nothing that is immune to everything, for every skill there needs to be some counter play. this is why i see iframes as being too much, there is no counter to them if well linked
     
  19. Itago

    Itago Witch 62 EU

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    Go over to the Wizard/Witch forum and look at threads/posts by people playing the classes, you will find alot of people more than willing to give up PA for almost anything else
     
  20. Foggen

    Foggen Musa 63 NA

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    PA is the most important skill they have for mass PvP.
     

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