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Staff Response Since game Devs promote 'Bots' is there reason to manually fish?

Discussion in 'New Adventurers' started by Celthon, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. Celthon

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    Have played relatively short amount of time, but see that this game heavily promotes botting (you call if AFK) -- so I need to ask: can anyone tell me if there is an increase in the level of items I'd gain by doing activities such as fishing manually vs. afk as so many do? Other than player's opinions, has there ever been any communication from the developers that would indicate there's any sort of 'reward' (better loot/fish, for example) for playing the game 'manually' vs botting, that would give anyone reason to do one over the other?

    I know it's 'faster' to fish manually...but is that the only difference?

    Thank you for your time and assistance.
     
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  2. Dryed

    Dryed Warrior 62 NA

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    AFK fishing catches fish every ~3 or so minutes, actively fishing depending where you are, you can catch a fish every ~5 or so seconds, besides that there is no reason to actively fish... So you tell me, is it worth it?
     
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  3. Megta

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    afk fishing is not botting!
    You should inform yourself what a bot does, before you say something like this!
     
  4. kakodaimonos

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    A bot is an automated system that does repetitive work for you without any interaction necessary.
    So he is not wrong. AFK fishing basically is a bot.
    It is not as fast as fishing manually but it still is an automatism.
    Same goes for Horse riding and automated feeding or AFK Leveling.
     
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  5. Megta

    Megta Archer EU

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    Wrong. A bot automates user inputs. like pressing spacebar as soon as a fish bites and again when the power bar is full, it also solves the wasd minigame and can discard unwanted fishes.
    The AFK mechanism does nothing like this.
     
  6. kakodaimonos

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    That's not true.
    A bot is simply a tool that is automating a task. Sure your example would be a bot as well but if something is done automatically it's already considered botlike.

     
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  7. Megta

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    A bot is an AI which "plays a video game in the place of a human". The afk function is just a game internal time based autocomplete function.
    But discussing this with you is nonsense, because the only thing youwant is to troll.

    And to answer TEs questions between the differences of afk fishing, manual fishing, and botting:
    AFK fishing = can be done over night/day while the game client is minimized and get an inventory of fish.
    Manual fishing = get more fish, relicts, and fishing exp in shorter time.
    Botting = getting a liftime ban.
     
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  8. Doom Smack

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    "Is there a reason to manually fish?"
    A: Yes. Active fishing gives a lot more rewards in shorter time.

    Afk and botting are two different things.
     
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  9. Bubblepuff

    Bubblepuff Bubblepuff Shai 64 EU

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    I see what you are getting at, but by this definition anything can be considered a bot. Press any button and the game automatically allocates memory to the right locations and runs all the necessary logic through the cpu in order to fulfill the expected task. EZ botting pog
     
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  10. Lillekolibri

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    The reason to manually fish is to use a boat and go to the hot spots. I make around 500 million a week active fishing.
     
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  11. kakodaimonos

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    Just because it is built into the game, doesn't mean it's not the functionality a bot could have...
    There was a game where you could grind while being afk, it used pots for you it searched for mobs and killed them. You wouldn't call that a bot either? Because it's built into the game?
    Just because you don't see what the afk mechanic is doing, doesn't mean it's doing nothing but get fish after 30 seconds. It might, still it's a repetitive process that is automated. People don't confuse this out of nowhere.

    But sure if someone disagrees with you he is a troll. Mr. Niceguy.
    Seriously get your head out of your own arse.

    We specifically talked about Game Bots here. So your argument is invalid. This is simply an automated process and has nothing to do with a repetitive task hence the memory allocating or running logic through the CPU. And if you read the source again, it involves no human interaction. The bot is doing something for you without your own doing. So the beginning of your process (pressing a Button for 1 simple short action) makes it invalid.
     
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  12. Törni

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    Yes, there is a big difference between afk fishing and active fishing - basically the silver/h ratio.
    I think from this point it should be obvious that afk fishing, which requires almost zero effort, will also result in a much lower silver/h compared to active fishing, where you need to sit at your computer and play the minigame every 10s up to every 1 min, or even more... depending on where you fish.

    Both ways of fishing is heavily affected by multiple factors though:
    - Hotspot or non-hotspot fishing: hotspots guarantee you one type of yellow grade fish being caught approximately every minute, however "hotspot" hunting is usually done during active fishing, as these spots last only temporarily, and once they disappear you need to move on to find a new one. Because of this, you need to active fish to ensure you can maximize the benefit provided by them.
    - Resource of the water zone where you are fishing: from exhausted to abundant
    - Your fishing gear: choice of fishing bot, making sure you have 5 levels of fishing
    - Inventory size - will heavily affect how long can you fish, before you need to sell to traders, or use them for cooking.

    Regardless, the point of afk activities (including fishing) is to provide a low, passive income during the time, you are not playing the game actively. It's basically a benefit for those, who are willing to let their PC turned on and run the game, while they are away.

    Point of active fishing is to provide an alternative means to generate profit (which again, much bigger compared to the afk version), while playing actively.

    It is up to the player to decide how fast he/she wants to generate income in this game.
     
  13. Bubblepuff

    Bubblepuff Bubblepuff Shai 64 EU

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    AFK fishing involves human interaction. You have to initiate it somehow, whether it being walking to the shore with your fishing pole and pressing space, or opening a program by clicking it with your mouse. Just because the following actions after the human interaction are relatively shortlived, does not make it not automated.
     
  14. Terror

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    I did that in 2 hours at aakman yesterday. Is it there a reason to manually fish?
     
  15. kakodaimonos

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    You don't get the point.
    If it's short lived it's not a bot it's mostly just a macro.
    A bot is doing an infinite amount of work until you stop him to do. He is repeating his tasks over and over. He is doing a loop.
    A button press does nothing but start a series of actions and stops after that. Basically like a macro.
    And there is still a distinct difference between a hardware sided process and several actions automated inside a game/program.
     
  16. Törni

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    No, unless you don't want to do aakman anymore.
     
  17. Terror

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    500m a week is just bad. That was my point.
     
  18. kakodaimonos

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    Can you AFK aakman?
     
  19. Törni

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    And who asked for this input, precisely?
     
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    Wat, I want to make 500m a week.......
     

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