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Skill changes with todays patch

Discussion in 'Tamer' started by Death_Grips, May 9, 2018.

  1. Death_Grips

    Death_Grips Death_Grips Tamer 61

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    Tamer (Skills with defense effect(s): Leaves Dropping, Flow: Gust, Cloud Stomping, Allround Spinner)

    • Super Armor effect has been added to Heilang: Berserk.

    • The Invincible effect at the start of Cloud Stomping has been changed to Super Armor.

    • Flow: Cloud Ride has been changed to a Super Armor effect.

    • “Forward Guard on attack” and “Super Armor while moving” effects have been removed from Moonlight Strike.

    • Forward Guard effect has been removed from the following Skills:
      • Garuda, Flow: Full Moon, Flow: Soaring Strike
    • Super Armor effect has been removed from the following Skills:

      • Legendary Beast Dance, Echo Pierce
    No protection anymore on three of our main skills. Can someone give me back the last two years of my time?

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  2. LeBulot

    LeBulot Aeb Tamer 62 EU

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    RIP Tamer 2016-2018
     
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  3. Angarato

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    no worrries. wizard got to keep all of their protection. lol
     
  4. 920

    920 Ninetwenty Tamer 62 EU

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    I think they did these changes because they werent able to fix moonlight/lbp.

    Guys what do we do those tamers from EU/NA keep crying about bugged skills what do we do what do we do?

    "Hey lets remove all protection that way they cant complain its not working if it doesnt exzist"

    Genius.
     
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  5. Sorakami

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    They might change next week,so for the next week either try to learn new combos,or do what i do and life skill.
    Cant be affected by pvp change if you dont pvp
     
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  6. Shynxie

    Shynxie Tamer 61 EU

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    What the actual **** is this patch....
     
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  7. Nyanpi

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    I don't even ****ing care.

    WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE IFRAME FROM CLOUDSTOMP
     
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    I just want to hear from irrelevent.
     
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  10. Assilma

    Assilma Tamer 63 EU

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    Absolutely gutted by this patch. Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, they have absolutely destroyed my beloved class.
     
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  11. ghoulz666

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    How does tamer pve grind now in tough areas? Class doesn't even get any legit self heals aside from a lengthy unprotected skill.

    Can the class at least have a block when you move? Not that garbage hold down button one.
     
  12. nyuuki

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    yea cloud stomp was the biggest nerf. Try to use it defensively and take full damage? LMAO help me
     
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  13. Kuu

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    That goes with every class except Wizards...

    I wouldn't be so grumpy if they dealt with the wiz skills equality, but if I'm getting them right.

    Charge skills and long animation skills tend to be protected.
    Engage skills and quick skills tend to be not protected.

    Except PA probably lack people that play the games and didn't realize mage skills can be long and effective due to protection. Well always next week when they go back to it.
     
  14. ghoulz666

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    Except the fact that many class skills have long ass animations. Not just the magey mages.
     
  15. Kuu

    Kuu

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    Which most of them kept the protection. They specifically called out charge skills.
     
  16. ghoulz666

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    Not really, many got the shaft and are pretty punishable now.
     
  17. Kuu

    Kuu

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    You'll have to elaborate without going into "oh woah my class is trash"

    Most engage skills have been stripped from every class
     
  18. Himmelsfall

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    "In addition, because the conditions for defense effects being applied differed per class, it became difficult to counter an opponent’s defense effects without having memorized the defense effects of that opponent’s class. We wanted to mitigate this issue through several balance changes, but we have reached the conclusion that unless the fundamental rules are changed this will be difficult."

    It to much effort to actually do pvp and learn what skills of other classes so. No you dont have to learn what can be used in a certain way. Thats to hard for players ...
     
  19. Alrikmerc

    Alrikmerc Grimmdhal Tamer 63 NA

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    LBD is long animation and not SA anymore. So, there you go.
     
  20. Fellow tamers,

    Let’s be real.

    Berserk sa change sets us up for that skill to be buffed twice when resistance patch hits.

    Stomp to sa change at start is a legit nerf, but how many times have you been cc’ed out of the start animation for that skill anyway? We’ll just also take damage now.

    We ani-cancel the landing of cloud ride anyway to further escape.

    Moonlight and its flow have been ineffective as fg for so long that we should be damn used to initiating differently by now.

    Garuda and flow were pve skills anyway. Pre-absolutes, I used to use it to extend fg as it turns on a dime and click to move instantly 180s the fg effectively, but I’ve since gutted the skill in favor of putting those points into absolutes. I think I was pretty unique in that regard. Most tamers don’t use this skill in pvp.

    And correct me if I’m wrong, but lbp never had sa, or at least we always treated the skill as if it never had sa. And echo’s sa ended as soon as the staff was fully extended.

    Case in point, they just got rid of incomplete and inconsistent protections, nerfed stomp, buffed zerk and we’re set to see zerk buffed again.

    Not the end of the world.

    EDIT: I misunderstood the changes to legendary beast dance (lbd). I mixed up the skill with beast rampage, and the iframe to sa change on cloud only applies to the first half of the skill leaving the second half naked. We are actually ****ed.
     
    #20 Thelemna, May 9, 2018
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