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Stop Nerf Kuno Again and Again!

Discussion in 'PvP' started by speedjarinia, Apr 15, 2020.

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  1. speedjarinia

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    Rly it is Stupid to see that Kuno every time Goes nerfed!
    He dont have so much Super Armor or Guards as other Classes.
    Her Move Speed will nerfed and nerfed.
    The Range From his Skills are rly little and he get a Nerf.
    Whats Wrong Nerf Guardia he have to many Protections and Take To much Dmg in Pve and PvP
    Same as Warrior.!
    I mean Kuno isnt a Perfekt Pve Charakter Cause Low Ranges in some skills.
    In PvP he is a Glass Canon and have the Lowest Base Life points in game.
    He need Buffs! Not nerfs!
    Maybe more lp? Or more Range on his Skills?!
    Or Maybe his jump is an Iframe?
    And He need a buff that Cd´s on Skills are go Lower i mean Succ Kuno 8 aktiv skills
    from 10-20 sec Cooldowns on this.
    3 Skills from kuno take a bit dmg in PvP , also other skills are useless and have to long animations for PvP!
    STOP NERF IT PLS!
    The Class Kuno is Outplayed and this is unbalanced in BDO
     
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  2. Jamiehas

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    Asking for kuno buffs... yikes
     
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  3. Tosca

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    No more nerf Kunos, Delete Sorcers.
     
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  4. speedjarinia

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    Yes why not ?
    All player who have Play Warrior Sorc Guardia etc. Cry kuno to strong we need buffs sheeesh rly
    ad why those ppl cant play other Block and oneshot skills..
     
  5. Anvorka

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    Sure, PA needs to give a lot range for kuno, with that, she'll CC every players in Velia to Heidel
     
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  6. Dannyswe1235

    Dannyswe1235 Kunoichi 62 EU

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    kuno is still good and dont really need any pvp buffs and awk need pve buffs and the nerf would be way worse if they nerfed dmg on shadow stomp or fatal blow or ninjutsu release wheel of wrath
     
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  7. speedjarinia

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    [QUOTE = "Dannyswe1235, post: 2484737, member: 217600"] kuno ist immer noch gut und braucht keine PvP-Buffs und awk braucht Pve-Buffs und der Nerf wäre viel schlimmer, wenn sie Dmg auf Shadow Stomp oder tödlichen Schlag oder Ninjutsu nerfed Rad des Zorns loslassen [/ QUOTE]
    yeah of course but the time will come who he nerf this skills too ... i knew it
    its just stupid a Gardia with awk go aakman with 224 ap a kuno goes to aakman with 269 ap succsession and gardia is faster thats not real
     
  8. Dannyswe1235

    Dannyswe1235 Kunoichi 62 EU

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    guardian isnt faster than kuno succ or even awk with 269ap in aakman with 224ap she is op but not that op but they wont nerf guardian because she is a new class
     
  9. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    I think the main reason kuno gets nerfed is because many players always mention her with their complaints about ninja. Sadly, kuno is a straight up worse version of ninja and nowhere near the power of him.

    Succs in general were either completly overtuned or dog$hit, so seeing changes in that regard at least makes sense. Awa kuno needs a buff tho (outside of spin2win).
     
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  10. sajdas

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    i actually think its the opposite (in my opinion of course), players complained about kunos but only mentioned ninjas when refering to the assassin (ninja/kunoichi) class, therefore - they first nerfed the ninja for a while and after it understood players complained about kunoichi aswell.
    damage nerfs are justified for both classes but i dont think its good to nerf the mobility/utility of both classes like that.
     
  11. AZzalor

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    Kuno is a class with: Less iframes, less dmg, less movement, no ranged cc and one less grab. Objectively simply worse than ninja.
     
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  12. sajdas

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    for succession (which is what been nerfed for both of them) - 1 grab for each, better movement is debateable, dmg - both is high, correct about i-frame as kuno lack ninja step (and silent charge if we are talking about awak aswell).
    and hey, im not in favor of nerfing any class, if they want to change classes i will always prefer buffs to the weaker classes instead of nerf to the stronger ones.
     
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    Only that in succession ninja still is more protected and still has ranged cc which kuno doesn't really have.
     
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    by "protected" you mean that most of his super armors start with non super armor skill?
    * crescent slash - require to do the slashing animation and start the super armor only after the rmb (with another small delay when he does the jumping animation).

    * shuriken flight - require to do the animation of the first shuriken spin and only after the lmb/rmb it becomes super armor.

    * ankle cutter - require to do the slashing animation and start the super armor only after the rmb (with another small delay when he does the jumping animation).

    but yeah, ninja does have mid range cc and even 2 of them (both malice and evasion malice have seperated cooldowns)
     
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    Even if a skill is partially unprotected, it's better than no protection at all. Especially useful in 1vX scenarios where you can manage to get a first cc off but then the others will try to cc you, but then the protected part already started.
     
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    by the way, i didnt disagree with you about kunoichi been a worst ninja, its just that players complain about both when they complain about ninja (sometimes they just refer them as "stealth classes" to tag both of them).
     
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    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    He has a point tbh
     
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    Kuno is the real life winner.

    Strong but pretend to be weak, cry together with rangers, stab ninja behind, and ultimately got their op succession with better movement than even awkenning ninja and much much higher damage than awakening ninja. Now still pretending to be weak, continuing complainning about ninja stronger than herself, to get a full win on awakening not with simply with their spin2win but also with other op skills. Nice stategy. Keep it up.

    Oh wait. Even she's the life winner. she will still complain, disguise and lie.
     
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    This is the century of the joke. Succession ninja's more protected? First remove kuno's kunai frontal guard please. Remove kuno's kunai frontal please. Remove kuno's kunai frontal please.Remove kuno's kunai frontal please. Remove kuno's kunai frontal please. Only in this way will you realize how "protective" succession ninja is especially in mass pvp.
    Kuno has no range cc? hahahaha. Do I need to show you her range awakening ccs while ninja doesnt have?
    Why do you neglect kuno succession's the higher damage?
    Why do you neglect kuno succession's better mobility?
    Why do you neglect kuno succession's kunai frontal block?
    Why do you neglect kuno succession's op self-buff?
    Why do you neglect kuno succession's tendon cutter with cc?
    Why do you neglect kuno succession's short cd (look at ninja's garbage shura chaos spree, on what earth should this skill has 25s cd?)

    Kuno succession is one of the classes that need immediate nerf. Sh*it.
     
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