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Suggestions for changes in core gameplay.

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Sprinter2000, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. AZzalor

    AZzalor EU

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    I would love to see an optional faction war where you have two or more faction and a player can affiliate with one. The players are always at war with each other and can pk without any punishment players from other factions. Being with a certain faction can come with benefits like getting some "honor" with a faction and them having a special honor shop so you can buy items and also having daily quests to kill X amount of players from other factions.
    There could be even more stuff with that like certain factions controlling mob areas and if your faction controls it, you get bonus xp/droprate there but you can always fight over it with other factions.
    Just some rough ideas but i'd love to have something like this as it would allow more for the pvx playstyle this game offers and i like so much about it.
     
  2. Fearless V

    Fearless V Lahn 61 NA

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    I can tell you right now from my experience with 4 other Korean MMOs that did this, it wouldn't work.

    Here is why.......

    - The whales and players that spends 6+ hours/day that has 600+ GS. Will find ways to stack teams with each other. To stomp players that are not as strong.
    - The PvP's scene heavy reliance on cash shop based RNG progression systems would break the game mode.(It'll be like Node Wars all over again.)
    - Gearing players would stand no chance, nor have a place to be competitive in this mode.
    - The game is built first and foremost as a casino with PvE and PvP as side content. Meaning this mode would get as much dev support as PvP and Class balance.

    All that being said is why I believe it wouldn't work for BDO. From my experience with Korean MMOs. A mode like this would be very empty in under 2 months unless it vastly outperform Grinding and Lifeskilling income per hour. In which case would break the game in other ways. Making the above problems more apparent.
     
  3. Phoenixxx75

    Phoenixxx75 Lahn 61 NA

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    This idea sound suspiciously like cyrodiil in elder scrolls online.
     
  4. Fearless V

    Fearless V Lahn 61 NA

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    Yup the very game they like to hate on and say is crap. Lol And the thing is cash shop don't have influence on your PvP performance like it does in BDO. Also Pearl Abyss would butcher this type of game mode to heavily push players to the cash shop. That not what happens in ESO.
     
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  5. AZzalor

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    I have never played eso and don't know what cyrodil is, so whatever.
    And? I see nothing wrong with this. You are not forced to take part in it so if you fear getting stomped, don't participate.
    All this talk about "fairness" is so ****ing annoying. This game is not fair and never has been, life is not fair either. Get over it and just enjoy what you can.
    It's not fair either that someone can just spent tons of money and then go outgrind you on your spot.
     
  6. Phoenixxx75

    Phoenixxx75 Lahn 61 NA

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    Not accusing you of plagiarism @ AZzalor it is just that this is the basis of the pvp zone in eso which is called cyrodiil. This is a three faction world in which faction quests are given and where there are shops which you can buy gear with the rewards from pvp'ing. You can explore any region solo or in groups and have 1 v many or group v group fights as well as complete a variety if quests.
     
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  7. AZzalor

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    Oh well i don't want only a special zone or server for that but it being part of every server everywhere. Also no gear should be buyable but stuf like memory fragments, caphras and cronstones would be good imo.

    Either way, adding some sort of additional owpvp content could spice up things for those who enjoy owpvp (like me) while not making it worse for those that don't.
     
  8. Fearless V

    Fearless V Lahn 61 NA

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    I'm personally not invested enough to argue on this point. But if this what you want, expect alot less targets down the road. Because they opt out because of PvP and possibly BDO altogether. Maybe than you will see what is wrong with it. Just like the Tera, BnS, Forsaken World, and other Korean MMO communities did. Ask them now do they see anything wrong with it.

    You can't catch fishes if your bait is too unappealing and toxic.
     
  9. AZzalor

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    Fine to me
     
  10. Phoenixxx75

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    Yes and I agree that it could solve the problem of people wanting pve only servers. In eso there is no open world forced pvp but people can duel at any time, sadly all the areas are separate zones because the world is huge far larger than bdo world. Cyrodiil is dedicated pvp zone with quest related to pvp.
    The items you can buy with the rewards are armour and weapons mainly but off course none of these really give advantages as anyone can buy them from the vendors or from the guild traders. It is not like the gear in bdo. All armour and weapons and jewellery have stats but they allow for many viable builds.
    It is hard to explain eso to anyone but as there are a vast amount of class, weapon and guild skills there is a vast amount of builds that can be used. You can spec into dps, you can build a tank, you can be a healer or you can build a hybrid solo play build. It is definitely more fun to build a character than bdo where one size fits all.
     
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  11. PurplePumpkin

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    I always loved the idea of optional factions for BDO! I can't remember if I actually posted it or not but, I really like the idea of using guild types for this. Bandit guilds vs. Military guilds. I think it would help keep pvp alive outside of node wars and sieges.
     
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    faction in BDO ?..


    Just wait Crimson Desert....

    I prefer the open membership, as on L2...
     
  13. Nextgengame

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    Factions could easily solve the nonexisting PvP content issue.
     
  14. Fearless V

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    It will solve it for a short while only to create it later in the future.

    How do you stop 610+ GS players from stacking on the same faction. And curb stomping the living hell out of not as geared players out of the game? Ask Blade and Soul how well this went!

    P2W/P4C OWPvP just don't entice a healthy and thriving PvP environment. It only convinces those that don't have the money nor time to no-life it to not compete or play.

    Now if you want to discuss total AP/DP limits on some channels so a 450GS players don't get slammed by 600+GS players. Than just maybe we may be able to get something to work. But then that would go against the whole business model that Pearl Abyss is using. So we would need all the luck in the world to make that happen. Remember Shadow Arena?
     
  15. Nextgengame

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    If the game developers want to stop it, then they can. If they are lazy as ****, then B&S happens.
     
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  16. AZzalor

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    That would simply not happen. There are too many geared players who actually want good pvp and would never do something like this. On top of it you have plenty of guilds that would definitly not want to be in the same factions as certain other guilds because of rivality.

    This statement is based on you thinking that those players would have fun stomping lower geared players from other factions which might be true for a few players but the real pvp players from the big guilds would never do that.

    You could ofc add certain mechanics to it that would encourage the spread of people around like giving extra incentive to join the faction that has the fewest affiliated players.
     
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    i would like to see some hit point recovery on skills or skill add-ons for ranger and dark knight.
    to make grinding a little more smoother, nothing cray like lahn or kuno spin ( which i love)but something for a little sustain .

    thank you
     
  18. Nicci

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    This is absolutely correct. I'm not a fan of all of the "rush to the end" mentality of games. I've had a few friends try the game, and I let them know that levels 1-49 were basically just a giant tutorial. If the game starts at 50, though... then there's not a whole lot of "game" to BDO in the leveling sense.

    I just had a realization sometime in the last week or so that made me sad. I have all of my character slots filled. Now the only time I get a new slot is when a new class comes out. When new classes come out, we are sent on leveling races to get them to 56, and then to 60... 61 this last time. You'd think there was something wrong with the early game that it was some kind of cancer or a shame to be a low level.
     
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  19. AZzalor

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    This...all this complaining that you don't have the gear after 2-3 months to participate in endgame sieges or grind endgame spots. Sadly the whole gaming community more and more moves into that direction.
     
  20. Phoenixxx75

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    Certainly looks like it.
     

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