It's not nothing. I realize that. Perhaps what I had said didn't come across the right way? Or I was too harsh? Absolutely some people gather the mats slower. 1/2 the fight is trying to get a damned courser!!! Throw money at it until it finally learns side step. But I only got to my 17+stacks right now by doing EVERYTHING i could. Gathering on my own, farming 10 x 10, sitting at market once i did all the quests I could and my fingers BURNED from doing Narc scrolls. I've done over 700-800 of those stupid things. Because I can get items that are the same as stonetail fodder from it. I got to level 61 just trying to do those scrolls to get horse items. (which btw from 60-61 those scrolls give you .1 % each...) So i do realize it's a lot of work for some people. It's a lot of work for most people! The only people it's NOT a lot of work for is the people who can throw 1, 2, 3 bill out the window on pre ordering the items. The very top 1%. Before there were alot of origin stones on market I had to fight with horse training every night and dcing just to get them to level 15. I would wake up and rush to the computer to make sure it was still running. Half the time the horses would be stopped and standing still cause it reloaded. Always only a few minutes after I left it there. I have not done any other progress on gear since t9 was introduced! (and I don't wanna be a negative nancy but there isn't' a 100% chance ill get a pegasus. Could get a Unicorn! XD At which point I have to start all over! But That's not the point, haha!) So i didn't mean to come off as harsh. But I've heard people with low stacks say FINALLY. Way to much...and it does get to me. Is it alright to be happy!? Overjoyed! Flail on the ground with happiness? Yes! Totally! I will gratz the hell out of you for success! But people who one tap it, or with really low stacks also need to empathise with people stuck in horse purgatory for ages with no end in sight. Because there is no special number we can all attain and "earn" a t9. There's just Rng...and it's not a kind system that plays well to hope and persistence. It's just...random. There is a very real chance someone could do this 100 times in a row, and never get it. Is it likely? That depends on if the failstacks really do anything.